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1-15-2011 @ 6:49PM
As a raiding arms warrior, who is topping the meters, I feel that your sinercism for how viable we are is a little unjust. I have no doubt haste sucks, and it affecting rend would be a brilliant change deep wounds though, I believe would be too much.
1-15-2011 @ 7:05PM
The overall numbers don't lie: Arms is near the bottom. If you're topping meters, that's great, but you're either running with DPS less skilled than you or less geared than you.http://www.stateofdps.com/#totals makes it clear that on average, a well geared raiding DPS arms warrior is putting out 5k less DPS than fury. Arms is below everyone except their traditional partners in low DPS, subtlety rogues, the non-Survival hunters, and Arcane mages. Even if you use the adjusted totals there's nearly a 4k DPS difference between warrior specs. It's only going to get wider because Arms simply doesn't scale well.
1-15-2011 @ 7:09PM
I too feel your 'sinercism'
1-15-2011 @ 7:19PM
Bear in mind that stateofdps.com actually says nothing about the AVERAGE well-geared raiding DPS - it ranks the performance of the very best DPS in the world.Now I'm not saying anything about how well Arms is actually performing at the average level, but you have to consider that stateofdps's numbers measure scalability towards best-in-slot gear and optimum raid buffs, and relative performance is not necessarily the same with lesser gear and less perfectly arranged buffs.The fact that you say yourself "Arms simply doesn't scale well" implies that an average player should find Arms more competitive with Fury than stateofdps.com would imply.
1-15-2011 @ 7:21PM
I am with you. Yeah, Arms is a bit rougher to keep at top DPS compared to Fury, but we're doing pretty well. Some of us are topping the meters against equally geared people. Is it skill? Who knows, probably. I think our biggest problem right now as Arms warriors is the dearth of crit. Once we start seeing more of that, our DPS will become closer to Fury's. As far as Haste, I just don't know what can be done with it. I guess Slam was the best option, but things will have to be reworked quite a bit apparently. The simple change would be to affect Rend, and probably the best way would have it affect NPC mobs only. This way we don't get nerfed again for pvp purposes.Then again, we've seen this every expansion. People get to max level, they start running battlegrounds in quest gear, and they get splattered all over the field by warriors. So that of course means that warriors are OP and need to be toned down, which happens and screws up up for 10-15 months until we get near to the last raid gear of an expansion and for a few brief months we get to be near the top of the dps charts for pve. Oh well.
1-15-2011 @ 7:24PM
Carson nailed it. These parses are from the top echelon of raiding guilds right now. Most of those guilds have set groups, and I'm certain very few Fury warriors who were raiding that way for a while decided to go to Arms. Those Arms warriors were probably brought in for the group synergy. Give it a few months as more and more guilds start downing raid bosses and I'm sure we'll see some gain by Arms. Again, I think lack of crit is our biggest enemy.
1-16-2011 @ 5:56AM
Huh, and I'm hitting 10k dps with an average ilevel of 338 in heroics and thought that was pretty good, given that I'm beating people with better gear than me. Here's hoping that respeccing fury and getting my head around its inner workings will turn me god-mode :D
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