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1-16-2011 @ 2:18PM
Garrosh: OMG don't murder people!Krom'gar: But you said...Garrosh: No! *murder*Gee, I can't imagine why some members of the horde might be confused as to what their new Warchief is after...
1-16-2011 @ 2:32PM
There's a big difference between what Krom'gar did and Garrosh's actions. Looking at the article, Krom'gar was assuming treachery despite the evidence, assuming cowardice when given reasonable explanations, and he basically just wanted to kill things. Garrosh was laying down the law - a brutal law, but a law nonetheless - and doing so in a way that would (at least in theory) discourage others from behaving like Krom'gar did.I'm not saying that simply banishing Krom'gar, or removing him from command, wouldn't have been the better option. That's a debate that's got more sides than a bag full of dice. All I'm saying is that from Garrosh's perspective, killing Krom'gar was punishment and/or justice, not murder.
1-16-2011 @ 2:53PM
he was executed for war crimes, no trial was held but we all know he did it =P
1-16-2011 @ 4:20PM
Maybe it wasn't the best example, but my point is he just killed some one for crimes he has not only committed, but previously promoted. He's been very "death to the alliance... no matter what!" since leaving Northrend. As some one already pointed out, this is very nearly the same scenario as when Garrosh ran across a beaten and battered alliance ship in horde territory and killed nearly everyone though it was obvious they had not meant to be there and were defenseless. He's obviously learned a little since then and may become a better leader for it, but he may find he has no one to lead if he punishes his most loyal followers for doing something he originally seemed to revel in, and so.. irrevocably.
1-16-2011 @ 9:06PM
You seem to have missed the entire point of the article. He was like that in Northrend--but that isn't he Garrosh we're dealing with now. The Garrosh we're dealing with now was influenced at the end of Wrath by Saurfant. The introductory quote, actually, explains this."Honor, Krom'gar, no matter how fierce the battle--NEVER forsake it!"Garrosh wouldn't slaughter innocents. He killed Krom'gar, but Krom'gar was HARDLY innocent--he had committed genocide. He is guilty of war crimes. As acting leader of the Horde while Thrall is away, it is very well within Garrosh's realm of control to enact harsh Horde justice on his cowardly genocide-enabling tooshie.
1-16-2011 @ 11:52PM
Except once again, those weren't alliance soldiers. Death to the Alliance is fine, its a WAR. Defending innocents has earned some respect for Garrosh from me. Also its called character development, good stories have it :)
1-17-2011 @ 12:11AM
Every General, every commander, is expected to know the Rules of War (yes, there's such a thing) before leading his people into actual battle. There are a few leaders who would sanction the murder of innocents and children but, we call them butchers and murderers; not leaders. While it seems that Garrosh is definitely a loose cannon at times, his growing pains as a leader is to realize the value of psychological warfare. Winning hearts and minds. This General didn't just cross Hellscream and forsake honor, he destroyed the potentially positive opinion of the denizens of Ashenvale. While both Horde and Alliance are definitely giving everything to claim the resources of the area, there are also potential allies to be had in the civilian population and having some druids-in-training speaking highly of you and your sense of decency to their friends and neighbors is definitely a boon to your war effort. Why do we fight wars? To win resources. How do you fight in an enemy territory and win? By winning hearts and minds. How do you do that when your commanders are sadistic and foolish? You don't.
1-26-2011 @ 5:28PM
Garrosh is not "acting leader"; he IS the Warchief.
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