Know Your Lore: King Genn Greymane of Gilneas

He brought it on himself, ultimately. This is not to say that he deserved it, precisely. He was proud, perhaps arrogant, and entirely too willing to let the whole world be damned as long as he saw no danger to Gilneas in the damning. But he was not malicious. He did not wish ill on anyone so much as he only wished weal upon those people he saw as his, and he saw his duty to those within his borders first, last and always. If he did not see clearly enough how the situation outside those borders would affect the people of Gilneas, it cannot be said that his failing was an absence of love for his people.
Genn Greymane, King of Gilneas, never failed his people by an absence of care or dedication. Like many who love something totally and completely, Genn's love for Gilneas was so strong that there was nothing he would not countenance in its defense. And sadly, it may well have been that willingness to do anything for her and anything to protect her, and the desire always to think of her first, last, and always, that doomed her. Even as his people have been forced to flee their kingdom, driven out by invaders who come to defile and steal a land that was never theirs, Greymane remains devoted to his land and his people.

Genn took Archibald's teachings to heart. A man stood on his own. A man relied on no one but took care of his own. Gilneas was built not by asking other people to solve her problems but by solving them herself. And so would Genn rule her.
Lord of His Pack - James Waugh"Do you think all of this was built by asking the other kingdoms to lift us up?"
The industrial towers of Gilneas City loomed below. It was a magnificent sight, for sure: large tiled roofs poised over cobblestone streets; shops, factories, and billowing smoke; it was truly a city with an eye toward the future, toward the potential of its people.
"When I was a young prince, as you are today, my father would not have dreamed of this! But I did dream, and I struck out on my own, and look at us now.... All of it done without taking the hands of those in Stormwind or begging for aid from those in Lordaeron. And we certainly did not grovel to the long-eared arrogance of those demi-humans in Quel'Thalas."
The coming of war
When what we would come to know as the Second War finally came, Genn had been ruling Gilneas for many years much as his father had. Aside from trade for her factories and goods for her people, the outside world offered nothing Genn was particularly interested in. When the request from Anduin Lothar came to the kings of the human kingdoms, Genn was fully of a mind to reject it. He saw no threat to Gilneas in the orcish horde that had destroyed Stormwind. Stormwind was a city built on ancient principles, while Gilneas looked to the future, after all. And while he certainly wished the people of Stormwind no harm, neither did their plight particularly move him. All it did was make him wish to protect Gilneas the more.
When confronted by young Lord Darius Crowley, who agitated for Gilneas to support the Alliance of Lordaeron against the orcs, Greymane responded that some people were strong and others were weak, and Gilneas needed to use her strength to defend her own people. In the end, Gilneas only provided a token force, motivated more by a desire to keep her factories supplied with raw materials from trade and Lord Godfrey's calculating desire to show the rest of the human kingdoms what even a small force of Gilnean soldiers could do.
Following the war, Greymane was not at all thrilled with the course the Alliance was taking. First off, the fact that any Gilneans at all had died to repel the Horde rankled him, as he still didn't truly believe it was their fight in the first place. He was even more angered by the decision to allow the orcish invaders to live rather than putting them all down, since it meant that the Alliance would need to pay for their upkeep, and as a member of the Alliance, Gilneas would be expected to contribute to the effort to feed and house the invaders who had murdered and burned their way through entire kingdoms, killing Gilnean citizens in the process. Finally, Genn was enraged at the idea of further expense being incurred by the establishing of a foolish outpost called Nethergarde in the remote south, somewhere near a former swamp that had been dried out by the destruction of the Dark Portal.
Turning his face away from the Alliance
If the rest of the Alliance wanted to pay to keep alien monsters who burned children to death in their homes alive, Greymane didn't see that it was any business of Gilneas. After a few months of political wrangling, he stormed out of the Alliance, uttering his famous denunciation of the entire affair."Damn the orcs, damn the Alliance, and damn you! The last thing Gilneas needs is sponges from other nations drawing from our resources, Dalaran wizards meddling with our affairs, and someone else's enemies killing our soldiers! Gilneas is its own nation and it always will be. This is the last time I'll ever talk to you, Terenas, so I hope you were listening." As parting words go, these proved to be unusually prophetic.
Soon, Greymane ordered his ally Lord Vincent Godfrey to enclose Gilneas in a great wall that would seal both enemies and former allies out. Godfrey took the opportunity to weaken his old rival Darius Crowley by cutting off the man's ancestral lands in Ambermill and Pyrewood. While this meant that Gilneas would effectively lose all of her territory in the Silverpine Forest (which had never been part of Lordaeron), it also meant that the Greymane Wall (as it would come to be known) would be built across the strongest natural barriers and thus be much easier to defend and harder to assail. Gilneas' vassals to the north were left to their own devices if they chose not to relocate behind the wall, abandoning their homes and a great deal of their wealth in the process.
Greymane respected and even trusted Godfrey, but he knew the man was self-serving. In a way, that's why he trusted him. If you know a man will always try and do what is in his own best interest, you can endeavor to ensure that his best interests are yours as well. But Darius Crowley and the king had a different relationship. At times adversarial, there was a wary respect and even a personal friendship between the two men. Genn believed Crowley to be misguided but a man of the people, capable of motivating them thanks to his ability to empathize with them. He misjudged how poorly Crowley and his supporters would take being dispossessed as the wall cut them off from their homes. Crowley grew so disenchanted with the king that during the Third War, he even arranged for the "Gilneas Brigade" to join Lady Jaina Proudmoore's expedition to Kalimdor.
After the wall was built, things were quiet in Gilneas for a time. Before Crowley and Godfrey could come to a head or the king step in to force an accord with the Northgate landholders under Crowley, the Scourge reached Gilneas. The great wall did not stop them. In the end, despite the strength of her defenses and her vaunted militia, it was a Dalaran wizard meddling in Gilneas' affairs who saved the nation from the waves of the undead. Genn had ignored desperate pleas from Lordaeron for aid, secure in his belief that the strong stand up and the weak fail from behind his mighty wall, and then found himself and his people besieged by horrible monsters with no one to call for aid themselves. Even if there had been anyone to call, who would aid a people who would aid no one? So Genn was forced to ask Arugal, formerly of Silverpine, an archmage of the Kirin Tor and a proud Gilnean, to use the secrets he'd discovered in the Book of Ur.
Arugal did exactly as his king bid him. He summoned beasts as fell and deadly as the Scourge, feral embodiments of raw savagery the archmage called worgen. And the worgen did exactly as Genn asked and drove the scourge back from Gilneas. True, they infested the woods to the north, the Blackwald. True, they rampaged north of the wall and slaughtered and cursed all they could reach with their claws and fangs, rendering Baron Silverlaine's family keep a ruined den of death and destruction, infested with monsters. True, had Genn listened to Darius Crowley and aided the people of Lordaeron from the start, the Scourge may never have reached their borders and there would have been no need to release the worgen. But Gilneas survived, and Greymane took it as confirmation that the move to isolation had been the right one. The strong stood on their own.
When the end came, no one was left to help
Even the Northgate rebellions did nothing to shake Genn's conviction. Crowley, tried beyond patience by the loss of his lands, the suffering of his people, and the intransigence of his king, led a large force of those also displaced by Genn's wall into Gilneas City. A civil war raged, one Genn barely managed to win (in no small part to Godfrey and his machinations, which had left Crowley without much of his family's wealth or possessions). In the end, Genn was forced to imprison the man he himself had once called the most beloved of his lords.
Even after the rebellion was put down, the famine that resulted from the wall was endured, and the kingdom slowly returned to something resembling normalcy, there was still a threat to Gilneas that needed to be dealt with. The worgen released by Arugal remained on both sides of the Greymane Wall. Repeatedly, Genn, Godfrey, and other nobles would attempt to curb or even eradicate the spread of the worgen curse, but to no avail. No matter how many times they made their supposed hunting trips into the Blackwald, they could never seem to come close to wiping out the worgen curse. Believing that the people would panic if they knew that the rumors about how the Scourge had been driven back were true, Genn chose to keep the worgen and their presence a carefully guarded secret that only he and his closest noble associates -- the ones doing the hunts with him -- knew about.
Which is why, when he himself was bitten, he knew he had to conceal it.
Every step along the way, Genn acted not for his own sake, but for his people, first, last, and always. Every step along the way, Genn made decisions aimed at preserving Gilnean lives and the prosperity of Gilneas. His own son and his closest friend argued against his decisions, but he stood strong and unwavering in his beliefs. The strong stand on their own and look to their own affairs. Lordaeron, Alterac, Stromgarde could go to hell as long as Gilneas was secure.
And so, when the worgen curse spread through Gilneas, there was no one to help her. When the Forsaken servants of Sylvanas Windrunner pushed south into Gilneas following the destruction of her great wall when Deathwing shattered the world, the former neighbors Genn had derided as leeches and parasites draining Gilnean wealth and Gilnean lives were gone -- or worse, transformed into walking corpses that now battered down his reeling kingdom. And so Genn was presented with the true tally of his rule and, in horror and despair, had to watch as everything he loved -- his kingdom, his people, even his son -- was tainted, cursed, or destroyed. In the end, the supposed traitor Crowley gave up his very humanity for Gilneas, while Godfrey, the man who had cut him off from his lands and people, tried to hand Genn over to Sylvanas. Liam died on a poisoned arrow meant for Genn. The people of Gilneas were ultimately forced to flee.
Genn, the king who had intended to preserve Gilneas over everything, was instead forced to watch it fall.
Genn Greymane loved his kingdom so dearly that he did not see that it could not stand alone. For alone it was, and alone it fell. If not for the intervention of the mysterious new elves who called themselves Kaldorei, or night elves, the people of Gilneas would have been lost entirely. Archibald Greymane had scorned the very idea of taking the hand of anyone, much less the "long-eared arrogance" of elves, and now Gilneas itself owed its remaining life to elves, even if they were very different elves.
Genn himself has gone to Stormwind. Once, Lothar brought the news of Stormwind's destruction north; Genn, while saddened, wished to do nothing to aid it. And now he must ask Stormwind's king for aid. Yet he does it, despite it being bitter like gall to him to beg others for aid. For he would do anything for Gilneas and her people, and he will, over and over again, until she is restored. In her hour of greatest need, he has been humbled, finally convinced that he was wrong after all, and that Crowley and Liam Greymane were right. Now all he can do is spend his remaining energies making right what has gone so terribly wrong.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
wllmsgame Jan 19th 2011 11:07PM
Well considering that EVERY NPC in the CAMP is killed, looks like the good generals orders were not followed. (well thats not true, I think the Orc made it out, but every tauren there was slaughtered. I know they were slaughtered cause they died were they stood before the cataclysm.
Anteia Jan 19th 2011 11:47PM
Uhm, only a few NPCs from the camp are dead. They DID die where they stood before Cataclsym. But alot of the pre-Cataclsym NPCs are not dead in the camp now. Erego, one can guess that they were not killed there. And if you notice, there are a bunch of dead orc guards too, just not titled. And his orders WERE followed, as per a Horde quest that basically implies he's a butcher because he 'purposely' left a hole that led into the quillboar. The Alliance did not know the Quillboar was there, the Horde thinks they do and purposely sent civilians to die amongst their enemies.
So: A) Not many survived, sadly, but B) There WAS a hole left and Tauren DID escape through it, as stated by BOTH sides. Now, considering the time the Alliance attacked... you also have to remember that even the weaponless Tauren that died who should have been left, talked about buying time and getting others out and why they would stay themselves. You do NOT know what looked like a weapon in a fight. There could have been some horrific mistakes. It is also expressly stated ALLIANCE side that only one individual in the Alliance camp can even understand Orcish. Your average Alliance soldier is not going to understand Taurahe, so it isn't like you can say "Well, see, but that tauren was telling them she wasn't armed!" because....well, if she was yelling and waving around, and she's quite a bit taller than humans... you don't know how those actions were perceived. Also, General Hawthorne remarks that the Alliance basically accepted people from the Stormwind Stockades into their army instead of making them serve out sentences. Keep in mind, that it is ALSO expressly stated that it was non-violent criminals, so a pickpocket could have been thrust into facing the Horde for the first time there and been terrified and so even more easily intimidated and capable of killing an innocent. Does this excuse it all? No.
Nothing excuses the death of innocents. But as a Historian in real life, I have to recognize when it happens, what might have 'gone wrong'. In the end, the core of most tragedies is about just how HUMAN we all are. Screwing up, making the wrong calls, and misjudging the situation. I'd also point out that the Alliance is not wrong about the Camp being a training ground for violent Horde forces. Or did no one catch the irony? The players are the violent Horde forces. The Camp has trained them since Vanilla. The Camp HAS been teaching people to be more vicious members of the Horde. Sure, early on in our illustrious careers, but it was still a training ground. And I say this as a person who Horde side, the Tauren are my absolute favorite race and I had a level 80 Tauren before Cataclysm and just haven't gotten to get back to her to level her. That's why I looked at this situation so critically, because I wanted to try to get perceptions of both sides of what happened there, to try to get as much a real situation as I could.
The fact is, the Alliance screwed up in attacking the Camp, and the Horde screwed up in killing the one Alliance leader in the area (besides Jaina) who seems to ultimately want peace. Both sides made very tragic mistakes. While the Alliance were responsible for more deaths there, the Horde may be responsible for more deaths on BOTH sides in the long run because the other Alliance did the exact opposite with his death than HE would have wanted. They made it a justification that the Horde are monsters who would kill their only sympathizer. That may have worst results in the long run than anything else... and those are part of a greater tragedy of this ridiculous war between the Horde and the Alliance when they need to be looking at Deathwing.
xoxotl Jan 20th 2011 12:28AM
@Anteia - "well, if she was yelling and waving around"
Good point. Also, in the world of WoW, "yelling and waving around" can very well be a precursor to casting some kind of magical attack.
In the reality that Blizz created, waving your hands around can very well be seen as an action that warrants deadly force.
Fraggranark Jan 20th 2011 3:03AM
No, I'll be the one throwing the confetti. While ordering an array of fantastic floats be built by gnomes and organising a parade. There will be balloons.
I seriously doubt it the Forsaken will do something like what you think they will. I won't repeat what has been said t previously about the actions of the Forsaken in war, if you've read the other comments you'll have seen it enough.
The Forsaken act in a blatantly evil way. The fact they're are undead does not make them monsters, as an individual they can be as heroic as any other race. But as a whole, the group known as the Forsaken kill innocents, civilians and any who gets in their shockingly selfish way for very bad reasons, most of which amount to "DEATH TO THE LIVING!"
Leonid Barthalomew has proven himself a hero through his actions. The Forsaken, and Sylvannas, have proven themselves monsters. Barthalomew is undead, but he's not going around plotting the end of the living or conquest for no other reason than greed like the Forsaken seem to be.
Dreyja Jan 20th 2011 6:31AM
All of my Dwarf Toons will be right there with ya. As far as I`m concerned, Syvie showed her `cards` a long time ago.
I hoped for more from her, I REALLY did,
Prime Jan 20th 2011 4:10AM
Wtb care and feeding of warriors prot article promised a month ago.
Thx
wllmsgame Jan 20th 2011 6:34AM
I kinda love how everyone is calling her "evil, just like arthas" and yet the ARGENT CRUSADE hasn't attacked her yet? Or are we just going to go the way of "old Tirion is an idiot" stance to explain why they have not.
Now you could say that they are still fighting the scourge, but why on earth let a "Lich Queen" gain even more strength before killing her.
I know I know "Sylvanas Sympathizer" still someone has to bring it up.
Matthew Rossi Jan 20th 2011 6:38AM
A- they just got done with a huge battle in Northrend. There are Argent Crusade questgivers in the plaguelands who tell you Sylvanas is insane and must be stopped. One of them is a former Forsaken Apothecary.
http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27531
"I once worked for the so-called "Banshee-Queen", Sylvanas, as an apothecary. I used to admire her, but something's changed within her. She's not herself anymore.
I broke my vows with the Forsaken and joined the Crusade. Now, I use my knowledge of alchemy to seek a counter-plague agent. And the Plaguewood is the perfect place to do so."
The Argent Dawn didn't run up to Northrend and attack Arthas right off the bat, and the Argent Crusade didn't immediately do so either. After the war to defeat him, it's understandable that they'd take their time to deal with any new threats, especially when Deathwing's currently rampaging and the Twilight's Hammer are loose.
xoxotl Jan 20th 2011 1:35PM
The Argent Crusade isn't just going to up and stage a siege on Undercity. There are serious political ramifications to consider in such an action.
At this point in time, the Forsaken are members of the Horde. The Argent Dawn / Crusade has always taken pains to make sure they remain a neutral faction in good standing with both the Horde and the Alliance. If the Argent Crusade declared war on the Forsaken and marched on Undercity, how would the Horde react? Probably badly. While I'm not a big fan of Garrosh, he would be bound by both honor and treaty to use the Horde's military might to war on the Argent Crusade.
Tirion also has to consider how the members of the Argent Crusade who happen to be Horde races (Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, etc.) would react to an attack on a Horde member.
(And there are also strictly game-mechanic reasons to consider to. If you spent a considerable amount of time grinding Argent Dawn / Crusade rep with your Horde characters, how would you feel if all of the sudden the entire faction went red to you?)
wllmsgame Jan 20th 2011 3:18PM
That could actually be taken two ways Rossi. The way you see it, he says she's changed for the worse, or my point of view, he may be upset that she even let tried to reason with the Gilneans with a hostage and let them go. Sure he's saying he's making a counter agent, but he could be like Montoya, working with the crusade just to get easier access to his regents to make an even worse plague.
Fraggranark Jan 20th 2011 7:35AM
To be honest, I really did like Sylvannas, I wanted to see the Forsaken become more then simply undead, to become a group that could build as well as any other.
And then they had you testing a plague on random civilians and killing farmers.....
It went downhill from there.
Zo? Jan 20th 2011 11:08AM
@wllmsgame
Seriously? Camp Taurajo is the best you can do when looking to come up with an Alliance parallel for the atrocities afflicted upon the world by the Horde? Okay, alright, we'll roll with that.
I see your Camp Taurajo and I raise you the entirety of goddamned Ashenvale (not to mention Azshara, Stonetalon and even Darkshore now). You ever made a trip out to Silverwind Refuge? No? I really think you should. Really and truly. And when you're done checking out the Horde vendors and quest givers standing over the freshly killed corpses of their Alliance counterparts, feel free to visit any other land in the game that USED to belong to the night elves. Half of it was destroyed during Deathwing's temper tantrum, the other half was taken (or is in the process of being taken) by the Horde. It's actually pretty despicable and does the Horde absolutely no favors. And what's more? There are very few Forsaken involved in THIS endeavor. God bless them orcs, huh?
Also, if you're going to bring the Shatterspear trolls into this discussion, the least you could do is a little research. Go out there and quest some. Garrosh brought them into the Horde specifically to have a force in the northern night elf territories so that he could better push them out of their own land. The night elves have left the once neutral trolls alone for years and years. The kaldorei are a race of people who generally keep to themselves unless they're being threatened somehow. They didn't attack the trolls of Shatterspear without cause, and using it as another example of Alliance-branded atrocity rings false.
Zo? Jan 20th 2011 11:21AM
I also wanted to add, I've always loved Sylvanas. I have never been fond of the Forsaken, but I've always felt for Sylvanas. I try to relate to her plight. Really, I like all of the Windrunner sisters, but especially Sylvanas. It's become very hard to continue liking her lately and I'm not happy about that. She continues further and further down this dark, one dimensional path that seems so very unlike her. She used to be a more rounded character, which is what initially drew me to her, and that seems to have just festered away. I hope, deep down, she is eventually redeemed... but I doubt it'll actually ever happen. Matter of fact, I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to have her spin wildly out of control, betray her people and end up eventually being a raid boss in a future expansion. I hope not, but with the way things are going... who even knows anymore.
She always looked up to Alleria. Maybe if she makes her return and sees what her younger sister has become...?
Anteia Jan 20th 2011 5:17PM
Honestly, Zo, I think if Alleria returns, she might very well lead the force against a raid!Sylvanas.
*SPOILER FOR WPL, ANDORHAL*
One thing people seem to ALWAYS FORGET when discussing Sylvanas is Kolthira, and her proposed 're-education' of him to be loyal to the FORSAKEN. He was an elf before death, and he has no reason to have to be loyal to the Forsaken, just the Horde. You could argue his actions were 'questionable' in Andorhal in terms of Loyalty, but it got the job done and they were actions that Thrall would have approved of, if Thrall was still in charge. And it's not like teaming up with the 'enemy' to bring a greater enemy down is unheard of... that's exactly what the Guardians of Hyjal, the Eathern Ring, and the Argent Dawn/Crusade do. Putting a meathook through the guy and dragging him into undercity and declaring you're going to brainwash him doesn't qualify as 'evil' in most people's eyes? It kinda baffles me.
wllmsgame Jan 20th 2011 9:14PM
cause he let his friendship with the alliance DK Thassarian made him not push the charge against the alliance, and instead of continuing the fight first, he let a ragtag bunch of alliance former soldiers/farmers attack the Forsaken part of Andorhal. If they would have been better equiped or in greater numbers the forsaken could have lost the city.
Basically it would be like finding out two people from competing companies were friends, and because of that a big project by the one friend's company slipped out and was almost picked up by the competing company, and it found out the friends were the cause of the slip. Even if the one company is able to beat the other to market, I don't think they would have let the guy off without a punishment for nearly loosing the project.
For the people who will say "your using real life example for a horrible war that the forsaken had no right to fight" I will sum it up in another way.
Koltira almost screwed the forsaken out of Andorhal, and she was rightly pissed off enough to make sure HE DID NOT DO THAT AGAIN. Yes she added "and to the Forsaken" but hey why not, wanna beat the friendship out might as well beat loyalty into him as well.
Cause as we all know, using everything to your advantage on the enemy is the most evil thing to do in a war.
And for the "but she did it on innocents!" We already know that TALKING DOESN'T WORK. It's like trying to come to an agreement with the scourge or the Burning Legion, only in this way its any Forsaken trying to talk to the alliance.
wllmsgame Jan 20th 2011 9:15PM
Also, the alliance never actually WORKED with the Forsaken to kill the scourge, I mean they basically just show up for the same curb stomp battle and then LET THE SCOURGE LEADER GET AWAY because they wanted to talk to each other.
xoxotl Jan 20th 2011 11:53PM
Wait.
Hold on.
So... the appropriate and acceptable solution to a military officer who is not performing to acceptable standards is to torture that officer and "beat some loyalty into him"?
...
Wow.
wllmsgame Jan 21st 2011 7:07AM
He's a Death Knight, if Koltira was a kitten or a child then yes this is horrible, but he is a DEATH KNIGHT. Do you really think a sever reprimand would do anything to him?
loschristabel Jan 25th 2011 9:48PM
Sylvanas Windrunner: More woman than you'll ever have. More man than you'll ever be.