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1-23-2011 @ 8:10PM
You say that after the Titan's left that the Old Gods came, but in the Old Gods link in this story (to another Know Your Lore), you say that the Old Gods predate Titan existence in Azeroth.Very sloppy.
1-23-2011 @ 8:13PM
Sorry, different writer, but the same site, and both tagged as Know Your Lore.
1-23-2011 @ 8:25PM
This article doesn't really say when they got to Azeroth, only when they started messing things up.
1-23-2011 @ 8:26PM
There are actually 2 sides of the story and Blizz has not confirmed which one, if either, are correct.
1-23-2011 @ 8:28PM
Blizzard has changed their minds about 18 times regarding the old gods and the titans
It's sloppy because Blizzard has written it both ways, depending upon the source. Some stories show the Old Gods existed at first and when the Titans first arrived they were already here, others have them appearing after a first visit by the Titans and the second Titan visit was the war.
1-23-2011 @ 8:31PM
I like how you down-voted my comment on the discrepancies on the lore in the Know Your Lore section. Very mature.
1-23-2011 @ 8:34PM
Duplicate comment, posted incorrectly the first time:Ah. So, as per usual, this is all of Blizzard's damn fault, and they will make no effort to set the record straight.
1-23-2011 @ 8:36PM
@VF-The lore here is actually quite fuzzy, so it's understandable that different writers may have slightly different interpretations. It is currently unclear as to whether the Titans seeded Azeroth then left only to return post Curse of Flesh, or if their seeding/war against the Old Gods/Curse of Flesh were all in fact part of the same visit. I personally prefer the later theory, though the former seems to be the more popular explanation.In regards to Deathwing's attempt to secure the Reorigination Device, my guess is that it would not necessarily destroy all of Azeroth- merely that it has the POWER to do so. A weapon of that caliber in the hands of the Aspect of Death would be a terrifying idea indeed.
1-23-2011 @ 8:37PM
Actually, there are two versions to the story. In one, the Titans come and find the Old Gods already on Azeroth. They imprison the Old Gods and order Azeroth into the state it is in currently. In the OTHER version of the story, the Titans come and order Azeroth. THEN the Old Gods come and infect the planet. THEN the Titans return and reorder Azeroth into the state it is currently. Despite being different things, BOTH are true.
1-23-2011 @ 8:38PM
There's two theories floating around, both have been written into Blizzard lore. The original story was that the old gods were on the planet first, before the Titans even showed up. Later lore revelations in Wrath stated that the Titans came first, took off, then came back when they found out about the Old Gods. I tend to go with the latter theory, as it's reflected in the most current lore stories we have, but really, Azeroth's origin story was something that the story department hasn't really fleshed out or "set in stone," as it were.Two years from now it may be the naaru showing up first and making the planet, then Titans in the middle then Old Gods then something else entirely, who knows? They keep developing it as they go on.
1-23-2011 @ 8:40PM
Retcon and developing are two different things. I just want one consistent story D:
1-23-2011 @ 8:52PM
You and me both man. XD
1-23-2011 @ 9:25PM
@KvotheI found your second comment on the re-origination device very interesting. I had always believed the version put forth in the article, that of Deathwing wanting to cripple the Titan's ability to destroy the planet (more so than Deathwing himself already has; it appears he doesn't wish to be one-upped), but now I'm thinking more about the second. If the device had the power to destroy EVERYTHING, maybe it could be programmed to only destroy SPECIFIC things, such as, oh, I don't know, a couple Aspects, perhaps? A certain green-skinned shaman who actually wears shaman gear now? The fruit vendor?All in all, I thin that maybe Deathwing had some sort of mad genius plan going on here along the lines of "If they destroy it, I win; and if I get it, I win." Scary.
1-23-2011 @ 9:54PM
While others have already stated what I was going to (2 different stories) I don't really mind that there are 2 different ways that it can be told (or really that we don't have a complete grasp of which one is true).It just makes me think that, like real life, we learn as we go along. A lot of things in history had been rewritten due to new details or discoveries. So why could it not be so with WoW?So unless we got a complete first person view of all events predating WoW and the history of Azeroth, I expect the story to continue changing. I think its kind of neat that way :)
1-23-2011 @ 11:27PM
Did you notice how someone is going around down-voting JUST my posts despite being conversational?I think that I have a fan :) I am going to keep posting on articles to piss them off, so expect a lot of blacked posts thanks to whoever my new bff is ;)
1-24-2011 @ 2:05AM
While inconsistencies in Titan/Old God lore no doubt reflect the evolving storyline of WoW, conflicting accounts are exactly what you'd expect to find with such ancient events. It's an unintentional bit of verisimilitude.
1-24-2011 @ 5:13AM
Am I the only one who prefers the old gods came first version? The way I see it is that the old gods were first, they had the elemental lords busy in a big brawl. After taking a quick nap for a few thousand years the titans show up and hide their elemental playthings in the elemental planes and proceed to dump their own little experiments all over. After waking up the old gods are annoyed at all the changes made and decide that since this is THEIR world, they might as well take control of these new toys and maybe even write their initials on them top make sure they aren't taken. Later the titans return and in an 'Omg you took or stuff we would totally have noticed you last time so you must have come later' moment the titans pushed each old god back in its room and put a lock on the door. They then put a couple of guards on duty and leave again.Yep, Azeroth is being fought over by a bunch of toddlers
1-24-2011 @ 5:17AM
How much do you know about the forming of the earth? No current races were around in a form that has actual history to prove 1 way or the other. Both could be completely 100%. For all we really know the old gods are just time traveled old bosses that came back to life and were put back in time as the old gods. Its all a crapshoot because we have never met a titan that has sat down and told us anything
1-24-2011 @ 10:21AM
Could it be the Old Gods are by products of the Titan's interaction with the primitive planet? By creating these seed races all of the leftover waste congealed into what we now refer to as the Old Gods. Since they were never given purpose or even acknowledgement they became bitter and sought to unmake what their progenitors created.Just a thought
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