Scattered Shots: Cataclysm hunter trinkets

It's loot week here at Scattered Shots! We've covered pre-heroic loot and we've covered pre-raid loot; now it's time to take the "pre-" out of the loot discussions and get down to the best PvE loot available to us hunters right now. Because there's just too much loot discussion to fit in only one post, we're going to be splitting things up.
Today, the focus is on trinkets, those pesky loot pieces with their complicated and delightful mechanics that make them so much more interesting than another collection of stats. Trinkets in Cataclysm have grown more complicated than ever, too. Back in Wrath days, we could count on most proc trinkets having the same 45-second internal cooldown, but these days, they all seem to have different proc durations, different internal cooldown, different everythings.
So join me after the cut as we delve into the wonderful world of hunter trinkets, find out why Hurricane isn't for hunters and how the very best trinket available is also the most easily attainable! On Thursday, we'll go over the broader best-in-slot gear lists for hunters. For today, it's all trinkets, all the time!
The trinket list
Let's start by narrowing down the list of trinkets we're going to review here. We'll take all the raid hunter trinkets, of course, but we'll also pull in the Darkmoon Card, grab Tia's Grace -- our best heroic trinket -- and I'm even going to break the normal "nothing remotely PvP" rule and grab the Tol Barad trinket, since it's so easily attainable and PvE-competitive.
Here's what we're looking at:
- Unsolvable Riddle
- Prestor's Talisman of Machination
- Fluid Death
- Essence of the Cyclone
- DMC: Hurricane
- Tia's Grace
Before getting into ranking the trinkets, let's take a look at how each one works. Note that for the time being, we can only weight things based on what's live in the game right now. We know that several things are changing in the PTR, and we'll take that into consideration, but since things are still changing on the PTR, we can't base our stat weights entirely on PTR info. However, even with the changes, agility is still king, and the relative value of the trinkets shouldn't change too much.
Unsolvable Riddle
Available from Tol Barad for 125 commendations, this trinket is instantly recognizable as a PvE hunter trinket, with a giant on-use agility boost. If you use it every chance you possibly can, it has a 16.67% uptime -- a very common uptime for Cataclysm trinkets. This makes the average agility provided 267.5.
While the Unsolvable Riddle is clearly attractive compared to heroic trinkets, it falls behind the curve once we compare it to raid-level trinkets.
Prestor's Talisman of Machination
Dropping from Nefarian himself, this trinket has a lovely 321 agility plus the haste proc. The internal cooldown is reported as 75 seconds; however, the proc chance appears to be only 10%. This means that on average, we'll get the 15-second effect only every 85 seconds or so (possibly a bit more often, possibly less, depending on how DoTs factor into the proc). This is a 17.65% uptime, making it the equivalent of 339.9 haste, on average.
This is a very strong trinket, as befits a Nefarian drop, and we'll certainly be competing with other classes for it.
Fluid Death
This is available from your friendly vendor at any time for a mere 1,650 valor points. Not only does this trinket give us 321 hit rating, but it also has a stacking agility buff, topping out very quickly at 380 agility. There is some small ramp-up time to this effect of course, but then it gives us more agility on average than any other trinket.
In a typical boss fight, the ramp-up time is negligible, and this trinket is phenomenal and a must-have for every hunter. The giant chunk of hit rating makes balancing your hit cap easy, and if you're over on hit, you can always reforge a chunk of that into crit rating. This is the best hunter trinket currently available, and we don't even have to wait for it to drop.
Essence of the Cyclone
This trinket drop from Halfus Wyrmbreaker, the first boss in the Bastion of Twilight. In addition to the hefty agility, this trinket is proccing our favorite secondary stat, crit rating. Unlike Prestor's Talisman of Machination, though, the proc duration is only 10 seconds. From player reports, the internal cooldown appears to be 50 seconds, though I haven't found any good information on the proc chance. If it's 10% like Prestor's, then we're looking at a 16.67% uptime -- and that sounds just about right for the Cataclysm trinket design.
If you had to choose two stats for your trinkets, they would either be agility and hit, or agility and crit. Essence of the Cyclone is a great trinket, and happily, it drops from an easy boss at the start of an instance. The rogues are gonna want this one too, but at least you should have plenty of opportunity to compete for the drops.
Darkmoon Card: Hurricane
DMC: Hurricane is the subject of much debate in the hunter world. We're used to comparing stats, but the big thing with Hurricane isn't stats; it provides a flat extra attack. Here are the key bits of info, based on the best information we now have:
- The proc chance is about 5%, with no internal cooldown. It can proc as often as chance favors you.
- It will not proc off of your pet's attack or DoTs, including Serpent Sting, Black Arrow, Explosive Shot, or Piercing Shots.
- It uses the spell crit multiplier and the spell hit chance. So even if you're hit-capped, this special extra damage can actually miss.
- The damage is increased by survival's mastery.
Tia's Grace
Dropping from Siamat in the Lost City of the Tol'vir, Tia's Grace is a shockingly good trinket for a heroic drop. Again, it has the stacking agility bonus, and again, the ramp-up effect is really negligible in most boss fights. What really matters is that the agility ramps up to a constant 340 agility -- a larger static agility bonus than most of the raid trinkets!
There are only two downsides to this trinket: The amount of mastery we get, 285, is less than we see in secondary stats on raid trinkets; and the item level is only 346, which can make you feel a bit sheepish when you're passing on raid drop trinkets. However, this trinket is definitely one that will serve you well even compared to raid tier trinkets.
Ranking the hunter trinkets
Okay, enough discussion on how they work, let's take a look at how the trinkets compare against each other. As always, exact weighting depends on not just your spec and talents, but also on your gear. It's possible that the relative positions of any two trinkets could swap depending on your gearing, but these should be accurate for the vast majority of hunters out there currently.
From best to worst, here's what the trinket list looks like!
- Fluid Death Not just the best, but the best by a good margin. You want this trinket so bad you'd kill a baby seal just to get it a day early.
- Essence of the Cyclone
- Tia's Grace
- Prestor's Talisman of Machination
- DMC: Hurricane Note that the value of this trinket varies heavily based on your spec. For BM, it's probably ranked lower; for MM, it's probably competitive with Prestor's Talisman.
- Unsolvable Riddle
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 5)
Kheldul Jan 24th 2011 10:55AM
Where would you put these two?
Grace of the Herald
Heroic
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Trinket
+285 Agility
Requires Level 85
Item Level 346
Equip: Your melee and ranged attacks have a chance to grant 1710 critical strike rating for 10 sec.
Skardyn's Grace
Heroic
Binds when picked up
Unique-Equipped
Trinket
+285 Agility
Requires Level 85
Item Level 346
Use: Increases your mastery rating by 1425 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown)
Skardyn's gives a 7.96% elemental damage boost for SV for 20 seconds. I generally hate on-use trinkets, but I've gotten used to them lately with a little mini-game of trying to fit in as many as possible.
Rugus Jan 24th 2011 12:28PM
To use the trinket as soon as you can, just macro it with your shots (Arcane/Steady will be enough). This way you can forget about actually "check" when the trinket is ready or not.
Skarn Jan 24th 2011 4:59PM
With just a quick non-mathy look, Grace of the Herald is the better of the two. Both have the same passive damage boost, but Herald offers a crit proc while Skardyn offers a mastery use. Crit is better than mastery and there's more crit on there. The trick is the uptime of the two, which I don't know.
Or were you asking where they rank overall? That one is harder, especially without math. :) Tia's is definitely better than either one, so they are both gonna be below Tia. Specific ranking though...I don't know.
Rugus Jan 24th 2011 10:58AM
Patch 4.06 will introduce new Alchemist Stones, just keep in mind that before you decide how to spend your emblems/gold/time/whatever
Quicksilver Alchemist Stone
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/68776/quicksilver-alchemist-stone/
+351 agi (red gem and bonus included)
+194 crit (equip)
+40% healing bonus
Sounds sweet :-)
Boobah Jan 24th 2011 4:56PM
That's a +40% healing POTION bonus, and given how dinky a heal that is, you're going to be using something different for your once-a-fight potion.
Croz Jan 24th 2011 11:18AM
I realize it's a JC only trinket but I was wondering where you would rank Figurine - Demon Panther (+285 Hit; On-Use +1425 Agility for 20 sec 2 min CD).
I think it might fall somewhere in the middle of the pack of those listed in the article.
Croz
Necrie Jan 25th 2011 1:32AM
Croz,
Yea, it probably would be in the middle to low end of the pack. Assuming you triggered it every time it was off cooldown, the Figurine would give you an average agility bonus of 237.5 Agi, in addition to the hit rating.
Asche Jan 24th 2011 11:22AM
Tahnk u very much Frostheim., not only for this mind opening article (i had Unsolvable riddle and DMC: Hurricane) but for your great site at WHU, peace!
michael9r Jan 24th 2011 11:51AM
there should be agi version of alchemist stone after the patch how about that one ?
Steve Jan 24th 2011 11:46AM
Does anyone know where there's a ranking of all Cataclysm hunter Raid gear? I guess I haven't been looking in the right places. I know there's an online spreadsheet where you plugin your gear but I'd really like to find one that's in an excel spreadsheet. Or something like that. Thanks!
Sheehun Jan 24th 2011 11:46AM
I have to disagree with you about rogues wanting Essence of the Cyclone. Crit is the least desired stat for Assassination and is second lowest on the list (after mastery) for Combat. There are actually three heroic dungeon trinkets that are better than non-heroic Essence of the Cyclone (Tia's Grace, Key to the Endless Chamber, and Left Eye of Rajh). For Rogues, our best trinkets are Fluid Death and Prestor's Talisman.
XayÃde Jan 24th 2011 11:50AM
The question is: Should you be spending your VP in tier pieces or this trinket first?
rcs5024 Jan 24th 2011 12:02PM
guess I should have read the rest of the comments before posting my comment.. oops.
rcs5024 Jan 24th 2011 12:01PM
Frost! Great article as usual. I was wondering, when you do your best gear article are you going to stress where you should use valor points first? I'm not sure how the VP farming is in raids, but for us who have guilds that are sputtering still the use of VP is especially important. Thanks.
James Black Jan 24th 2011 12:29PM
Frost, what method did you use to create your rankings? I know you put a disclaimer of different gear levels, but I've had Darkmoon Card: Hurricane for a long time, throughout many gear levels and it's always come ahead of Tia's Grace (according to FemaleDwarf.com).
Currently, if I took off my Hurricane and put in Tia's, I'd be looking at a 70 DPS drop in spreadsheet DPS. Were these ranking made with more dwarven stout than logic / science?
Thanks much,
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P.S. Thank you for all you do for the hunter community.
NeVeRLiFt Jan 26th 2011 12:06PM
Same here as of this posting, DM Hurricane at femaledwarf is showing a huge dps increase over unsolvable riddle over 230dps for me and showing 70dps over fluid death.
And Tia's grace is killing unsolvable riddle at femaledwarf also... yet Frost seems to disgree.
I really take what he says now with a grain salt.
NeVeRLiFt Jan 26th 2011 12:14PM
DM Hurricane is showing a 270dps increase over Unsolvable Riddle and 70dps increase over Fluid Death at Femaledwarf.com right now.
I've been using DM Hurricane and seeing it be 2-5% of my dmg over all and pulling 19-23k dps all the time.
Also Tia's Grace is showing 230dps increase over Unsolvable Riddle at Femaledwarf.com as of this posting...
So not sure what Frost is going on about or where he is getting his numbers.
Frostheim Jan 26th 2011 1:14PM
Female Dwarf was, of course, one of the information sources I used.
Keep in mind that I'm discussing the way the game is right now, on live. If you have the PTR changes enabled on FemaleDwarf you'll be getting different data (especially with the DMC fix that finally made it into the PTR build). Also -- again as I said -- different gear setups can get you different results : )
Skudoosh Jan 24th 2011 12:49PM
Should Grace of the Herald from Blackrock Caverns be considered with the 285 agi/1710 crit for 10 sec? J/W
cosmin000 Jan 24th 2011 12:58PM
What about the upcoming Quicksilver Alchemist Stone with the 351 agility ( if you count the red gem socket and it's bonus ) and the crit?