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1-26-2011 @ 11:10AM
I saw some discussion in comments the other day that Blizzard somehow doesn't "let" players treat heroics as end-game content, or something along those lines. How is that? If players enjoy the heroic challenges without wanting to deal with 'raid culture', what prevents them from focusing on heroic dungeons?
1-26-2011 @ 11:33AM
I haven't seen that to be the case, but must have missed that discussion, not sure where it was. For the longest time I was not a raider, and even now it's not a highly progressive raid team I'm on, which is perfect for me. Up until about 3 months ago the end game for me was chain heroics. I had the best gear you could get without going into raids.I think it is very viable for someone who enjoys grouping with folks (whether PUGs or guildies) but doesn't have the time commitment or schedule to allow for any type of raiding. Before I joined my current raid team I would do the weekly with an essentially PUGed alliance of guilds, it was farm content from Ulduar, so a very nice way to stick my toes in the water.
1-26-2011 @ 11:38AM
That's ridiculous. If you want to stay at lvl 60 or lvl 70 and run endgame stuff for your lvl you can. If you want to stick with Cata heroics when you ding 85 that's fine too. Hell, it's actually optimal to learn every Cata heroic well before ever (if at all) stepping into a Cata raid. Don't let anyone tell you what you can't or shouldn't do in game or IRL. :)
1-26-2011 @ 12:11PM
It is true that you can just stick to heroics, but pretty soon it starts to feel a little stagnant. I currently don't have time to raid, so I'm doing my heroics every day, sometimes a few of them with different guild groups. Anyway, I'm decked out in ilvl 346 gear now (all of which is well-itemized), so I don't need any more gear from heroics or the JP vendor, so doing heroics (gear-wise, anyway) is pointless except for the first one to get my VP. Sure, heroics are fun, but unless I'm in a guild group chatting with them on vent, it's just not that fun.Certainly, raids become stagnant too (waaay too many months in ICC, anyone?), but it seems to take them a lot longer. If I have just one character that I play and I'm unable to raid, heroics probably won't keep me interested very long, and I'll have to find other things to do. Now, I have alts, so that's what I do, but not everyone likes having multiple characters, or PvP, or farming BC reps or whatever.
1-26-2011 @ 10:41PM
If the devs don't want players to see heroics as endgame content, then they need to come up with a raid finder.Simple.I'm still bummed that my smith was all set to start crafting ICC gear, yet it's kinda hard to craft that gear if you never get invited inside so you can actually visit the vendors, who are useless to you until you've killed a whole lotta skeletons and maybe a few bosses, too, which is kinda difficult if you never get invited inside.And don't start that business about joining a raiding guild--I'm perfectly happy with my friends-n-family guild, tiny as it is (nearly at level 3!).
1-28-2011 @ 8:50AM
@SamLowry: Raid finder? Cata raids? omg. Oh, the horror. Please make the nightmares stop!
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