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1-26-2011 @ 11:19AM
Soooo ive been Wondering this for a whileIs it posible that the titans may have visited draenor? I know that they travel planet to plant forming order out of chaos and draenor doesnt seem that chaotic...(before it blew up). Also could it have been possible that the evidence may have been lost when it went boom? Also could draenor have had its own version of the dragon aspects or would that be a one time deal with the old god issue?Sorry lotta questions :) thanks
1-26-2011 @ 1:16PM
For a lore perspective that would add an interesting dynamic -- and would allow the dev's to resurface Outland (which they've said they wish to do) while adding new leveling zones from 85-90 ...I'd be really curious how that content would work. Would be a fantastic read.
1-26-2011 @ 1:26PM
Well, if you can see Azeroth from Draenor, it stands to reason that they would have noticed another life-bearing planet close-by and would have visited it. I'd love to see a CoT instance someday to revisit a pre-broken Draenor.
1-26-2011 @ 2:16PM
1. Anything is possible, but there never was any evidence. Titan influences are usually easy to spot. So the answer is "probably not."2. Since it's not likely they were ever there, and there is no hint of any Titan artifacts, it's not likely Titan relics were blown up.3. One time deal (on azeroth anyway) of the old god issue.Draenor/Outland lore is seriously messed up, it's been retconned and twisted many times so it's hard to know what's what. That being said, there has not been any hint of Titans or Old Gods on Draenor. I would have to imagine some kind of tentacles or Old God blood would have spilled out when the entire planet split open. No, the bulk of the evil on draenor is from the Burning Legion and the demonic influences of that evil.
1-26-2011 @ 2:26PM
There's little evidence that Draenor (before it was broken, sucked into the Twisting Nether, and the remnants renamed Outland) was anywhere near Azeroth. The fragment we've visited is fairly near Azeroth, as such things are measured in the Twisting Nether.There are NPCs that refer to players as descended from Titan constructs, however, and they don't make exceptions for any of the races; we know how humans (and consequently worgen and Forsaken) , gnomes, and dwarves are connected to the titans, but the dialog implies that trolls, elves, tauren, goblins, and even the non-Azerothian orcs and draenei are descended from Titan seed races.It's also possible the quest designers were limited in their ability to change the dialog appropriately.
1-26-2011 @ 2:39PM
The way i see it based of azeroth is that outside of certain areas their is very little evidence of titans IE; Uldum Ulduar, Uldaman and stormpeaks and such. that being said when only say.... about 10-20% of the world shows evidence of titans why ins'nt it too unlikely its no on draenor anymore for all we know whats left may only be an incredibly small portion of the original planet, is it also possible that their many be other remnants of draenor out there?For another mater the lack of titan relics may mean this was a perfect world where everyone was going according to plan before the draenei came and brought the burning legion with them. the amount of titan influence on azeroth cant really be compared to other planets because of its special issues the, only real way to tell is to see another planet that was visited by the titans and was successful, my idea is that is what draenor could have been before everything went wrong. then again im also insane >-> my ideas are outside the box around the corner and hanging out in a back ally behind a Denney's
1-26-2011 @ 4:06PM
@pyromelterEven though it doesn't necessarily prove anything, there IS actually what may be Old God blood in the mines under Netherwing ledge, http://www.wowhead.com/npc=23286
1-26-2011 @ 7:29PM
Eh, there is some speculation on wowhead about old gods, and arakkoa worshipping them. I really don't buy it. Shadowmoon Valley was a nexus of evil, from Ner'zhul to Gul'Dan to Teron Gorefiend to all the Burning Legion influence there, not to mention Illidan and his mongrel self.Old Gods are massive. Like spanning large parts of planets massive. They have tendrils reaching everywhere. Shadowmoon Valley has lakes that are green from Demonic influence, no need for an old god to have done all that. A couple of slimes in a broken-off piece of Outland isn't enough to make me think "old god."You want some out of the box thinking? How about this:On a planet with Titan technology, guardians, lorekeepers, and influence, a warlock would not be able to basically turn the entire planet inside out and send it into the twisting nether. The planet would be "re-originated" long before anything like that would happen. There is no curse of flesh. There are no earthen or larger versions of known species. There's a lot of animals and energy, but there aren't any corrupted world trees.Let me put it another way: Old Gods and Titans are not small people with small ideas. They are gigantic and larger than life. In a world that has been turned inside out like a bad sweater, we would see all kinds of huge buildings with columns, ruins all over the place, old god tendrils and brains and eyeballs flying out all over the place, not just a few slimes in an off-beaten corner of an evil part of Outland.
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