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1-26-2011 @ 11:21AM
LOL are you drunk? Ozruk is the easiest fight there if you have a semi-decent tank who knows how to move properly. You seriously think it's poor encounter design to not be able to go into a fight and have the potential to defeat it the very first time you see it? Yeah, very first time you'll probably wipe to a fight, however just looking at what was being cast when you died, then clicking the link in chat (from the line 'Ozruk casts [spell link]') and reading what it does will pretty much tell you how to win.As for ranged there, when he puts his reflect up, cast a dot (tell your healer before the fight not to cleanse it...) so you get broken out of paralyze. You don't even have to move for the entire fight unless you were dumb enough to run close to begin with. Anyone in melee with him already gets their own dot to break paralyze almost instantly. This fight is 100% on the tank as a tank/healer duo can kill him without the aid of DPS.As for the first boss, you don't have to run one specific direction, you just can't hesitate. If you run the long way out, you don't have time to stop and correct. You have to just stick with whichever way you choose the moment you see you're in his path.For Slabhide, just make your tank pull him into a bit of a clearing so that the ones closest to people aren't inside his hit box. As a tank, positioning of bosses and mobs is an important skill to learn, and that's a major time to use it right there.So, basically you were whining that using the tools you have in game to figure out why you died is too hard and you don't actually want to pay attention to any sort of complex mechanic in a 5 man. You should be sticking to normals then.
1-26-2011 @ 11:28AM
While I don't agree that Stonecore is as easy as you're making it out to be, it certainly isn't as impossible as the article is claiming. It's tricky, and you still might wipe a couple times even though you've done it before, but that's what a Heroic is supposed to be. Our guild got it as a random the other night and despite wiping twice on Ozruk, it was a pretty fun run overall.
1-26-2011 @ 11:29AM
"You seriously think it's poor encounter design to not be able to go into a fight and have the potential to defeat it the very first time you see it?"Why yes, yes I do.Wanna fight about it?
1-26-2011 @ 11:31AM
I voted you down, because I had a lot of trouble getting to your fairly decent advice through all the dickishness.We all know that you one-shot heroic SC in mostly quest greens while the healer and one dps was d/ced in a full pug having only run it once on normal all while you were half asleep. That doesn't mean Mr. Ziebart doesn't have a lot of very good points about the outrageous difficulty, bordering-on-broken mechanics, and extremely small room for error of this particular dungeon.
1-26-2011 @ 11:34AM
Yep, he's drunk. Clearly. Apparently a lot of the WoW community is too. Moron.
1-26-2011 @ 12:02PM
Gotta love the know-it-all "if you were only as great as me" posts.I agree with the original column writer... Heroic Stonecore is much more akin to a raid boss environment then a heroic boss environment. Wiping on 1st attempts, and having to do multiple attempts to get everyone on the same page is more raid-learning-curve then heroic-learning-curve, and in this aspect, Blizz has failed. Stonecore is supposed to be a heroic, not a raid... it is avoided like the plague by many for a reason... Heroic Stonecore has earned "the Occulus effect" , and when that happens, Blizzard has failed, despite the know-it-alls who think otherwise.
1-26-2011 @ 12:14PM
It's really too bad when people who would otherwise have quite meaningful contributions to make can only write them in Assholese.
1-26-2011 @ 12:37PM
Ignoring the douche canoe salesman, I don't see what's wrong with wiping once or twice on your first visit to a Heroic boss. That isn't comparable to a raid environment *at all* as raids often require full nights of wipes versus just one current-tier boss.Wiping once when going into a boss fight blind* isn't even too crazy for Normals, from what I've experienced of Cata dungeons so far (which is Normal mode of everything but Grim Batol).*This isn't accounting for reading up on strategies or abilities before-hand; just the initial experience.
1-26-2011 @ 2:50PM
The problem is wiping several times in REGULAR mode because the final boss is too hard to figure out. And before anyone can really learn what it is they're supposed to do the tank drops group, then the healer, and you have to try it all over again and wipe again because neither has done the fight before.And remember, I'm complaining about REGULAR mode. I've never even attempted heroic mode, and don't think I ever will until it's seriously nerfed.
1-26-2011 @ 7:15PM
- "Oculus effect"- "Assholese"- "douche canoe salesman"This thread is awesome. That is all.
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