What I hope is answered in Ask Creative Development round II

My hopes are high for this next round of questions, as Cataclysm introduced countless new lore figures, quests, and story deviations into the already enormous world. I've come up with a list of four points of lore that I would like the creative development team to address, to shed some light on these very prominent figures.
Sylvanas
Every time lore question and answers come up, everyone throws their hands in the air at the same moment and screams, "What about Sylvanas?!" Well, I am no different. Sylvanas is a compelling character to both sides of the Warcraft equation. For the Alliance, she represents everything as evil as the Lich King with the added bonus that her people/minions are the literal remains of the fallen kingdom of Lordaeron. She represents to many the greatest evil on Azeroth next to Deathwing, and the continuation of her story gives the Alliance more and more reason to hate the Horde she associates with.
For the Horde, the continuation of Sylvanas' story is vital to the strength of the Horde in the Eastern Kingdoms as well as the understanding of where she stands. Admittedly, Sylvanas' methods throughout the expansion have seemed very peculiar, even for her. The inclusion of the Val'kyr, former servants of the Lich King, into her armies perplexes many on the Horde side of things, including Warchief Garrosh Hellscream. To be honest, I've been told by Blizzard for six years of World of Warcraft that the Horde is not an evil faction, but that we all live in various shades of gray, and that it's all relative. Blizzard even went so far as to craft entire zones around the premise of us all existing within many shades of gray.
So my question about Sylvanas is: What are her motivations? Will we find out what is truly haunting Sylvanas? If she is so evil, then have we, as a faction, stepped out of the gray area and Blizzard is asking us to defend her actions? Or, as I suspect, is Sylvanas suffering from some outside force that is doing to her what was done to many before her -- clouding her mind to what is really at stake and pulling her into her own form of madness? At what point will all of Sylvanas' oddness be clarified?

Thrall and The Earthen Ring have become major players in Cataclysm, with the fighting in Vashj'ir and the plight of the World Pillar in Deepholm. These great shaman have taken it upon themselves to fix the elemental wrongs of Azeroth and beyond, and so far, they have been very successful in doing so. While Thrall maintains the Maelstrom rift, keeping it just enough open and just enough closed to stop the planet from tearing itself apart, the other shaman of the Earthen Ring fight Deathwing's elemental servants all over Azeroth.
The issue comes from the fact that one of the Earthen Ring's biggest challenges, fixing the World Pillar in Deepholm, has come to pass. The success in Deepholm leaves many Earthen Ring with a mission already accomplished; they can now turn their attentions to more pressing matters outside of the plane of earth.
So my question about the Earthen Ring is: What is next for the Earthen Ring? Will we see the effects of the success in Deepholm in the next tier of content? Will the Earthen Ring be instrumental in the fight against Ragnaros, or will they be relegated to the fight in Vashj'ir and the new, unannounced creature that lurks in the waters coming in the next patch? And what of Thrall? Will he be relieved of his Maelstrom guarding duties at some point during Cataclysm, at least until his new book comes out?
Rustberg Village and Tol Barad Peninsula
Something strange is going on with Tol Barad Peninsula -- like, really strange. I have praised the Tol Barad design before, giving it style points for creating such a wonderfully tense atmosphere and perfect ominous mood. Rustberg Village is a common destination for many daily quest seekers who brave Tol Barad Peninsula for some sweet Tol Barad commendations. You've all probably met the suspicious residents of this haunting fishing village.
The villagers of Rustberg are suspicious. It says so in their name. The problem is that we don't know what they are suspicious of. Or is the suspicious moniker one of characterization? Is the villager himself a suspicious person, or is the villager himself suspicious of something?
So my question about Tol Barad Peninsula is: Who are the villagers of Rustberg Village? What are they suspicious of, or why are they suspicious? Why are they both Horde and Alliance races, working together, on this remote island that only recently became bathed in conflict? Who are these people, what are they doing there, where did they come from, and why do I kill 14 of them on occasion?

So far, the story of the Explorer's League in WoW has been a fascinating one. Brann Bronzebeard has been an instrumental figure in many locales all over Azeroth, especially if the Titans are involved. Recently, Blizzard added some much-needed depth to the blood elves by giving them an interesting role to play within the Horde -- a contingent of blood elves known as The Reliquary are the Horde's answer to the Explorer's League. Instead of having pure motives of finding and unlocking the hidden treasures of history, these elves are hinted to be looking for ancient powers and the means to use them. While not power-hungry and addicted as they once were, these blood elves take their arrogance and apply it to archaeology.
So far, we have witnessed some awesome back and forth by these two factions. As the Explorer's League strives to uncover the tales of history, the Reliquary is right there to throw them off the trail and find answers first. We watch them tussle in the Badlands and duke it out in Tanaris, and we see some major players in Uldum. Sadly, this great conflict is not played out as well as I would have hoped in Uldum, but the main characters do make appearances.
So my question about the Reliquary and the Explorer's League is: Will we be seeing more of this awesome new addition to the blood elves, and will their story, along with the Explorer's League, play into the further exploits of this expansion? The theme this go-around has been steadily more and more about uncovering the darker sides of our selves and our factions, from the Dark Irons moving back in to take their place in the dwarven halls, to the worgen unleashing their inhumanities to beat back the Forsaken. From the orcs accepting back the greatest dragon hunters to ever live, the Dragonmaw, into the fold, to Sylvanas diving deeper into her own little madness, we are watching as each faction finds out a little bit more about itself and its ruthless tendencies. This seems absolutely ripe for conflict, ancient evils, and powers beyond our wildest dreams. Having the Explorer's League and The Reliquary, especially with some Belloc versus Brann/Harrison Jones action, would be pretty spectacular.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Hinalover Jan 27th 2011 7:05PM
If it means anything, Chris Metzen may have given a sneak preview of the types of questions he would be answered by way of 4chan? You can find out more from this thread that posted screenshots of the 4chanarchive.org website:
http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/showpost.php?p=259140&postcount=8572
Mathew Jan 27th 2011 7:15PM
Confirmed to be fake, sadly.
Imnick Jan 27th 2011 7:29PM
If he was going to post a sneak preview... why would he post it on 4chan instead of, you know, his own WoW message board?
EasyAnswer Jan 27th 2011 11:16PM
And you believed this was real? Most of the questions answered was already known/given a vague answer/simply avoided. Pretty obvious its fake, especially if it originated from 4chan.
Quiz Jan 27th 2011 7:12PM
Sylvanas is certainly one of the more compelling and tragic figures in WoW lore. Of this there can be no argument.
However, she is certainly corrupt. This is the nature of the Forsaken curse. She is corrupt and. yes, slightly more evil than most. I don't know why Blizz fights this perception as it seems built into the character and lore.
And while you can certainly argue there are many different kinds of corruptions--being a corpse resurrected by the Lich King pretty much trumps most of the others.
Zankoku Jan 27th 2011 7:19PM
corruption =/= evil
razion Jan 27th 2011 7:29PM
Implying Sylvanas is not evil is like trying to convince people the Coco bird isn't coo-coo for Coco Puffs.
Tuhljin Jan 27th 2011 7:30PM
There are different kinds of corruption, and many of them DO in fact mean evil. Corruption by temptation/sin/evil and thus BECOMING evil is a classic story element used throughout the ages, and for good reason: It's based in reality. Given that 1) people aren't born evil, and 2) people can become evil, it follows then that 3) something must change (read: corrupt) people to turn them to evil. But that doesn't mean they had no choice in the matter!
And don't tell me that no one is truly "evil." They most definitely CAN be evil enough to earn the label. I don't care if the mass-murdering villain of the story had a horrible childhood. I don't care if somewhere deep down there's some good in his blackened heart. If he's out there committing genocide, he's EVIL. There's something valid to the "shades of gray" thing, but all too often it's just a cop out to avoid labeling evil as what it is.
Quiz Jan 27th 2011 8:15PM
She is evil. Period.
The semantics are the usual spin by Horde fanboys who play UD characters.
She's dead. She was rez'd by the Lich King. That makes her evil. She hates the living. That's her friggin' battle cry! "Death to the living!" How is that not evil?
I played a UD toon and it's completely the most evil of all WoW toons. I mean, look at the Holocaust-type shit that used to go down in the Apothecary? It's just sick.
I think she's a great character. But you can't really clean up the undead. Every other Horde race, sure, they can just be misunderstood. Taurens for sure, even trolls and Blood Elves--and certainly Goblins--they are shades or gray.
Orcs are bit problematic simply because they practice genocide. But the Undead are--flippin' undead! That's pretty evil.
Hollow Leviathan Jan 27th 2011 9:35PM
If she's undead, honestly thinks being undead is really awesome and better than being alive can ever be, and wants everyone to join her in undeath, is that pure evil, or a bizarre and different perspective?
It's certainly not worse than Wrynn who wants all orcs to die. Is he pure evil because of that? He has a troubled past that gives him a somewhat justified hatred of their kind. Seems somewhat similar to Sylvanas' plight.
icepyro Jan 27th 2011 10:08PM
You know, I realize that zombies are evil and all, but if I was brought back to life against my will, I'd probably try to live. That's the screwed up part of the whole business. They are undead and therefore inherently labeled evil. Creation is not necessarily inherently good or evil. Our decisions define us.
Now I'm not saying Sylvanas isn't evil, she has crossed the line even with me, but she is not so far gone that there is no hope. The Forsaken Curse is not what corrupts. She was raised by the Lich King, but even she understood his evil and fought against it.
What makes her evil is her decision to kill the living regardless of race or allegiance. What makes her evil is her decision to raise them as undead even before the corpse is cold against their will. What makes her evil is whatever she is using to compel loyalty before they have had time to figure out what's going on. Being Forsaken is not evil. Forsaking morality is.
trefpoid Jan 27th 2011 11:08PM
I don't think Sylvannas is evil. I'm sure she just has to make crazy choices to accomplish whatever it is she wants right now. Of course, she does some fucked up things, nobody can deny that, but I love it. I think she lost most of her morality when she was raised and after enduring all she had to go through, so she doesn't mind killing people and raising them back to bolster her armies, but I think it's all part of what she needs to do to be a good leader and now she doesn't have any of the restraints she had when she was alive. I think she is all about getting to her goal, without thinking of the consequences. The whole plague thing is crazy, but it was a really good plan to get rid of Arthas. In the Wrathgate, he was damaged enough to have to retreat. If Putress hadn't done what he did, Sylvannas might've used the plague on Arthas and dealt him the killing blow right there. I can't think of her as evil, I know she suffers deeply for what happened to her and the High Elves and having to live apart from them is even worse. She made Thrall accept the Blood Elves into the Horde and it giving her a necklace from her sister was enough to make her extremely depressed. I'm sure she is resigned to her Undead life and her new people (who she has to protect at all cost), so she uses many unorthodox methods to keep her people alive. She clearly has her own agenda and I'm sure we will learn what it is soon enought, but I don't think she is being controlled or anything. It would suck so bad if they pulled a Kael'thas or Illidan on her.. I really love Sylvannas, she is really tragic.. it's like she was pushed into so much crap and now she has to make the best of it even if she becomes a monster in the process.. I'm hoping for the best, I want her to reunite with her sister, see what they have to tell her :D Maybe she'll soften a little and stop acting all that crazy.
Jinx Jan 27th 2011 11:58PM
If you're treated as a mindless, brain-eating, life-hating zombie long enough you're bound to become one eventually.
With that said, I'm anti-Sylvanas. Death to the Lich Queen. Or some classical fairy tale redemption plot *_*
Szass Jan 28th 2011 2:11AM
I think some of you are missing something here.
Undead being evil is a point of view.
From the undead perspective, killing and raising more undead is their only source of propagation for the species.The undead are not bumping ugly and making undead babies.
Propagating your race in the only possible way can only been seen as evil from the other point of view.
I'm sure a zebra family thinks that lion's are evil.
Hurbster Jan 28th 2011 2:25AM
All I need to do is go to whats left of Southshore to make my mind up over just how evil she is. I'm sure Genn Greymane remembers her sympathetic words over the death of his son quite well also.
Szass Jan 28th 2011 2:42AM
Fighting an ongoing war, or winning a battle does not make someone evil.
There are plenty of example of the ally forces attacking and killing Horde as well.
Perhaps you have heard of Camp Taurajo in the Barrens?
Are the Ally leaders Evil for attacking the Horde?
Mr. Tastix Jan 28th 2011 4:10AM
The thing about Sylvanus is that she had a choice... or did she?
I love the character but her actions make me absolutely despise her (and I think that's the point). She proclaims to have been freed of the Lich King but honestly, has she actually been free or is something else still controlling her?
Hob Jan 28th 2011 5:06AM
Let's assume she's actually evil, and not working on some secret plan for the forces of good. It's relevant to ask, what kind of evil is she?
Is she evil in a Darth Vader, "yes I'm evil, but only because things didn't turn out the way I expected, and someday I will cast off my shackles and be redeemed" sort of way?
Is she evil in a Senator Palpatine/Darth Sidious, "Mwah-ha-ha I'm so bugnuts evil it doesn't actually make sense except to further the plot" sort of way?
Or is she evil in a Grand Moff Tarkin, "We have an Empire to run and little things like individual rights, and honor, and inhabited planets are either pointless or threatening" sort of way?
Valid questions I think, because the motivation for someone's corruption and subsequent turn toward evil leads to the conclusion of their story. The story I've seen leads me to believe that she started out as a Vader character - evil, but not out of choice, and with the potential for being redeemed. With Arthas dead and redemption not forthcoming, perhaps the Vader-aspect of her personality has grown into a Grand Moff Tarkin sensibility: my hopes and dreams have finally been put to rest forever, but the trains still need to run on time, there are taxes to be collected, enemies have to be fought, and new recruits have to be brought into the fold. Nothing personal, just business.
So who would run the Undercity / Forsaken faction if she were removed? It's possible that Leonid Barthalomew could turn the faction around toward a more peaceful future. Of course, it's also possible (and more likely, IMO) that Varimathras or another dreadlord could take over. I do like the idea of Leonid becoming faction leader ~ it would make for some interesting stories...
Matheus314 Jan 28th 2011 7:19AM
I can see Sylvanas taking control of the sunwell to find a redemption to her curse (very much like the night elves and their immortality attached to the well of eternity).
Ian Jan 28th 2011 11:36AM
It's possible to name Sylvanas evil and still have sympathy.
And out of sympathy I'd like to help take the weight off her shoulders. Namely: her head.