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1-30-2011 @ 4:43PM
"Keep -bleed debuff from Mangle up at all times. Basically, hit Mangle every 60 seconds unless you're lucky enough to have an arms warrior or subtlety rogue with you who put that debuff up automatically."Now, while Arms Warriors have Blood Frenzy to put the bleed debuff up automatically with any bleeder a Sub Rogue will actually need to use Hemorrhage once every minute to get the same effect. Backstab is the main attack for Sub, so using Hemo isn't automatic, not any more than using Mangle is. If you are grouping with a Sub Rogue in PvE content it might be a good idea to agree on who keeps the debuff up.Currently Sub Rogues have a very difficult and unforgiving PvE rotation, not to mention their damage is relatively low, so it won't necessarily be any easier for them to keep the mangle-effect up, than it would be for a Feral Cat Druid.You might see some Arms Warriors in PvE content, but Rogues will most likely be either Assassination or Combat, meaning you will have to use Mangle yourself. Just a good thing to keep in mind.
1-30-2011 @ 6:06PM
Does Mangle (Bear) not give the same debuff anymore? I always thought the best way to maintain Mangle on a target was to have a bear tank.(ps. tanks putting up bleed debuff is [greatear than] dps putting that debuff on the target)
1-30-2011 @ 6:23PM
Now that you mention it, Pyromelter, I'm pretty sure that a feral tank is the best spec to put up the bleed debuff. Since they hit it every 6 seconds (more because of Berserk procs), they're the most reliable source.
1-30-2011 @ 11:04PM
Didn't realize that. Thanks for the clarification.
1-30-2011 @ 11:05PM
That is, the bit about sub rogues; I should have mentioned feral tanks as being the best source, yes. Thankfully, with a 60s duration now, it's not nearly as punishing to keep up as it was.
1-31-2011 @ 3:20PM
Good point, Pyro. Bears are best for it, then possibly Arms Warriors. Kitties and Sub Rogues would come in a joint 3rd place then.
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