Gold Capped: Selling enchanting scrolls in Cataclysm

Enchanting is a very straightforward business. You have a few steady sources of income; however, one of the reasons that its overall profitability is high is that Blizzard put it behind the level 84 phasing wall, making a huge chunk of the profession in Cataclysm only accessible to people who have access to the shard trader.
Level 84
As a general rule, if something can be done with enchanting before level 84, it's basically free. My guild's bank is full of stacks of scrolls like agility to boots and crit to cloak that we picked up for less than the cost of the mats. In fact, I routinely restock at ridiculous discounts compared to what it would cost me to buy the mats and do the enchant myself. As long as there are people leveling enchanting, recipes like these will remain unprofitable. The profitability comes when you start using recipes or materials that are harder to get. Eventually, these lower-level recipes may get profitable because many of them are very much in demand, but not until the people who are leveling enchanting have finished.
Let's look at that demographic for a minute, shall we? The people who affect the market for enchanting goods the most are people who use their professions for a profit. While there are always casual crafters, I'd estimate that well over half of the supply for crafted goods comes from people like me who use addons and have multiple characters with multiple professions. Their activity is the supply half of the supply/demand relationship, and the requirement for them to level their enchanters, blacksmiths, leatherworkers, and tailors to 84 in order to unlock a large portion of their trade skill means that there is going to be fewer serious crafters in that space, less supply, and higher prices.
This is certainly nice for those who lucked out and had their main (who probably would have been leveled anyways) already possessing one or two of these professions. These people have much less competition than they would otherwise have had. Unfortunately, however, it means that the consumers of these crafted goods pay much higher profit margins to these crafters.
Addons
Many things can be done with a very simple UI, but you will benefit greatly from a few addons. Look at enchant scroll crafting, for example. It's possible to type the name of all the enchants you can make to see which are profitable and decide which to craft, but it's annoying and manual. Still, if you're only going to make a couple of scrolls a week, this will take you less time than setting up and learning a good tool.
If you're willing to use a general purpose AH addon, you can save yourself tons of time simply by using features that should, in my opinion, be included in the default AH UI. Shift clicking on something in your bags or in a profession window to search for it, for example. Auctionator is what I use, but I hear Auctioneer might have started working again. In any case, a general addon can allow you better manually calculate your costs and more easily keep track of profits and list inventory.
A very specialized addon must be used to allow you to scale past manually doing a few crafts and posts a day. Right now, there is only one game in town, and it's called Auction Profit Master. I've talked about them before, but the long and short of it is that while you have to do what feels like an inordinate amount of work while you initially set up the groups and items for sale, once it's done once, you can list auctions and cancel undercuts in a fast batch. And yes, I know it says when you turn it on the first time that it's discontinued, but that's just because their development team is working on a much larger scope addon that's not yet ready for prime-time. APM still works, and it's relatively bug free. When the new one (called TradeSkillMaster, if you're the beta-testing sort) is finished, I'll write a guide on how to use it.
Scrolls
Scrolls are the bread and butter for most enchanters. Before Blizzard introduced vellum, the only way to sell enchants was to use a clunky trade window. This required both parties to be online and not busy at the same time and made comparison shopping so long and annoying that most buyers didn't bother -- which is fine, because more enchanters would ask for a "tip" instead of charging a fee. These days are long gone. Now you can search the auction house for the enchant you want, and the price will be based on the supply and demand for that scroll.
It's important to remember that you can't unmake a scroll. Once you've committed the mats to vellum, it's final. For this reason, it's good to only mass-produce when you're sure you are getting a good deal on the mats. Also, remember that if there's a spike in mats price, there may not be one for scrolls. Short-term spikes in price can be great income for enchanters who make mats (more on that in another post), but if all your mats are tied up in scrolls, the increase in scroll demand may not have as much of an effect on your price, depending on the number of scrolls you and all your competitors have made.
When you're deciding which scrolls to make, remember that some are literally never used by anyone, ever -- well, so rarely used that it's not worth making them, no matter how expensive they're being listed for. Also remember that no matter what expansion the enchant was introduced in, there are people who might be willing to pay for it.
Lastly, remember that price influences demand. Listing an enchant like Greater Critical Strike to cloak for 20,000g is quite a risk, because while the mats are expensive; not many people would be willing to pay that kind of gold for a slight upgrade. It's not that they're buying it from your competitors; they're buying the cheaper version. Maybe before the hotfix that prevented Lifebound Alchemist Stones from being disenchanted, some people were getting these enchants; however, you're unlikely to find many people willing to spend enough money for a BoE epic on a slight stat boost for their enchants.
Odds and ends
Like many professions, enchanting has a few toys that you can use if you need an addition or (or break from) the scroll market. The faction-specific mini-pets, for example, might sell on your faction. They almost certainly will if you can get them through the neutral AH to the other faction. Additionally, if you see an opportunity, remember that you can turn old mats into other old mats. You are also one of the only sources for enchanted leather and thorium.
Filed under: Economy, Cataclysm, Gold Capped






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Necromann Feb 3rd 2011 7:35PM
I just sell stacks of mats on the ah, I get quite a bit from deing in multiple dungeons.
Thunderkiss_65 Feb 5th 2011 7:46AM
I can't make a penny from scrolls but make a fortune from mats, enough to level my 4 crafting skills which gives me more greens for disenchanting. Green drops from dungeons on my main and cheap greens from the AH help too.
xiani Feb 3rd 2011 8:20PM
I'm making pretty decent profits on some of the "second best" enchants on scrolls, +15 stats to chest mainly, everyone uses that, and the mats are so cheap it's a no-brainer.
Enchant weapon hurricane costs a bit more to make, but it's the best option for at least 4 classes unless they can afford landslide (and have a top-tier raid weapon worthy of it). If you have alchemy too it's probably the best way to use up the volatile life->air transmutes.
Ice Feb 4th 2011 5:12AM
On my server the "second best" enchants go even beyond that.
They can be all the way back to northend ones! Now, I'm not sure are they "twinks" or what but I've made quite a lot of money by berserker, agility weapon (northend not vanilla) and mighty spellpower (usually when I do /who they are 85.. but who knows)
Funny thing is that for example I'm selling berserk at like 400g while avalanche or hurricane go for 420-500g.
Once you get into enchant business its really nice. Most of wrath I never bothered with them because I didnt know any addons that would tell me for example that "mats are this and it goes for this" or simply didnt bother with it because I thought it was risky like overflooded glyph market. Now after cataclysm I've literally doubled my gold I've made from BC to Wrath. Now my total gold is about 100k, now thats not a lot for most of the readers here (or so they claim..) but making 30k (100k gained 70k spent) in 30 days is pretty nice for such lazy bastard like me. The market is not that risky either, you dont have to worry getting undercut every 10 minutes by someone from 100g to 10g.
Now I just need to cut my spendings even more, last month I spend over 10k to level tailoring** and now celestial essence is waaay too expensive.
**which was literally worst idea I've had due to the fact that people are dumb even selling cloth trader recipes below mats cost, rest are mostly leveling items so they go for above DE mats but below mat cost and the fact that it takes 20 chaos orbs to craft epic that goes in AH for 4k (3k mats with 7 day cd cloth). Oh did I mention BS crafts items with 3 orbs and sells them for 10k with 7k profit? Oh wizards and your wizard professions..why do you mess with economy.
Btw I would suggest Analyst addon to most people. Its pretty informative how you have spend the money on THAT month (counter starts form day 1) or 30 days timeframe.
Oh and sorry for horrible mish-mash comment.
naughtyzoot Feb 4th 2011 10:43AM
Tailoring was awesome early in Cata. I had mine maxed and was selling Dreamless Belts and both DPS pants for nearly 10k each week across my two tailors. Now, not so much lol. Don't know why (maybe more have orbs so they can do the no-cooldown Dreamcloth?) but the prices plummeted below mat cost now like you said. I'm still able to sell spellthread for ~800-1k though, which is a decent profit.
I'll have to check on the Northrend enchants on my server. I've only been occasionally selling Hurricane as my 'chanter is only 82 and I haven't gotten to Twilight Highlands for the better recipes yet. I figured there was no demand for those and hadn't bothered :P
riley Feb 3rd 2011 8:36PM
Chances are that patch 4.0.6 will drop next week. What can I make/buy/sell for some quick gold when the patch drops?
Murmel Feb 4th 2011 12:59AM
Miners can now create Enchanted Thorium
Twill Feb 4th 2011 3:48AM
Yea, Enchanting has evolved to the point where leveling it is profitable.
I was making Hurricanes to level, made like 200g from each one. Tip for others! :D
Shinhan Feb 4th 2011 4:28AM
I had a nice profit Prospecting in Cataclysm, but since the MMOChampion's featuring of OreCrasher serious undercutters have moved in..
Oh well, time to find a new market :)
neogramps Feb 4th 2011 5:22AM
Try inscription - you dont even need the profession to make money.
On my server inferno inks are going for 250-300g - but people are selling blackfathom inks for 10-12g - buy them all and double your money at the ink trader in dalaran!
Rob Feb 4th 2011 7:15AM
Another thought is to give trade a try. "WTS X enchant for Y gold, or free w your mats". This is always good for people who don't have alot of time or dont want to spend alot of time for some nice starter enchants. Its not a bad notion to do this for leveling enchanting, ie you can offer some decent enchant for the cost of materials plus a bit. The advantage is that you dont commit those materials to something where you may not get any ROI.
Azmo Feb 4th 2011 7:58AM
Don't know if auctioneer works 'again'? TradeSkillMasters been out in a functional beta for over a week... Justmytwocopper already posted a guide... If any of you have any real interest in making gold, casually or in an attempt at the gold cap, do yourself a favor and start at www.justmytwocopper.org for some good and timely info.
cente_ddr Feb 4th 2011 9:15AM
Yah, TSM has been live for awhile now. We're at 22k downloads and have been updating bugs constantly! We even sent you guys a big email message when we released it but it was ignored! The beta might be a bit rough still but it's definitely usable. Check it out at http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tradeskill-master.aspx - Cente from the TSM team
Basil Berntsen Feb 4th 2011 10:54AM
It wasn't ignored- but when I dropped by to check in on it, enough features were not yet implemented that I didn't post about it in detail.
Parknet Feb 4th 2011 9:50AM
I've tried everything I have but mats are worth far more than the enchant scrolls they make. I have made a bit on heartsong, hurricane, +15 stats, etc but not much. Now if I could get my grubby hands on some maelstrom crystals, that might be a diff story.
iceveiled Feb 4th 2011 11:12AM
+15 stats, expertise to bracers, and mighty agility to 2H weapons are my best sellers....when I have the time to just sit around and cancel and repost every 10 minutes. My realm is overpopulated with enchanters who don't anything better to do than cancel and repost 24/7, unfortunately.
I've watched enchant profits plummet by hundreds of gold because people undercut by 5,10 gold at a time. Morons.
Joffery Feb 4th 2011 7:20PM
I'm looking forward to the influx of new people that I can use goblin tactics on. I intend to undercut and then exploit there use of APM / TSM to buy up their lower than matierial cost scrolls. I expect I'll make some wedge as I have in the past. I love it when you make posts like these. $$$$ Ker-ching! $$$
ZephyrSP Mar 22nd 2011 1:44PM
As a very low level enchanter (125), scrolls are deceiving. They are of course the primary way to level, and some like minor chest absorption look extremely lucrative at 5g+ per droll. But they're toxic. I can't sell a single one, of any enchant I have. And you can't even vendor the things. So I end up spreading them across my alts, taking up space as I try to use them up. But hey, that's the price of leveling. If I was just in it to make quick gold I could just stick to disenchanting and selling the mats.