"Rawr works just like a sim/spreadsheet. It's just a more friendly user interface. "

Based on certain class discussion messageboards, rawr is basically a red-headed stepchild and not considered a "real" sim like EnhSim - and the enhancement shaman commenters out there let you know it.

To the people who enjoy simming and spreadsheeting, I get ya. That's why I said "I think simming is great for those who want to dive deep into the numbers and really get into the specifics of dps." You want to get hardcore mathy about your dps, I think it's great that you can do that. But to be required to do that is where I draw the line at fun.

This isn't necessarily a casual v. hardcore thing. You can be casual and love spreadsheets and sims, and you can be hardcore and dislike them. The point is being required to take time out of game defeats the purpose of playing the game for the people who are not into it - and while you can say something like "I think someone else mentioned this, but just because you don't find spreadsheets fun doesn't mean everyone else is exactly like you" I would respond thusly:

I'm not claiming that everyone is like me. But I think I can make a reasonable assumption that using complicated spreadsheets and simulation programs is something that the vast majority of wow players are not going to find fun or interesting. Especially because what you are "simming" most often is your gear and a gear choice, and to spend precious time outside of the game to make that decision, I'm sorry, that just isn't great game design.