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2-05-2011 @ 9:46PM
Deep wounds is worth taking then? I could swear I read somewhere that the lower Cata crit rates made it so-so. Might have been in the Fury 101 column here, even.
2-05-2011 @ 11:07PM
Well you have talents and modifiers that give you a boost to crit. Also, with flurry, and generally hitting a button on every gcd, you will have a good chance at having it rolling quite a bit.Also, warriors have traditionally scaled with gear better than other classes. Deep wounds is one reason why. Looking at a semi-famous fury warrior who is in all heroic 372 type gear, he's sitting on the armory around 22% crit.I think the major question is whether to fill out deep wounds, or to fill out incite - on one of them you have to leave a point. The famous warrior i looked at has 2/3 deep wounds, and 3/3 incite right now.
2-06-2011 @ 5:02AM
As if there's any reason to try to 'roll' Deep Wounds as Fury. Arms might care, but only because if Deep Wounds is up they can get a DPS boost by allowing Rend to drop off for a GCD while Deep Wounds maintains Arms's bleed debuffs.Deep Wounds is purely extra crit damage. It'll do the same damage (on average) whether the procs are tightly spaced or evenly spread out.With one caveat: like Ignite, it's possible for Deep Wounds ticks to be munched. In fact, the biggest difference between the two talents is that Deep Wounds looks at weapon damage instead of the damage of the ability that caused the proc.Deep Wounds is also, incidentally, another place where SMF falls behind, since with more frequent weapon strikes it's more likely to have some of those ticks get munched. I suspect that even without munching, it'd still fall behind because the larger Deep Wounds procs that TG produces outweighs the more numerous procs SMF produces on autoattacks.
2-06-2011 @ 5:40AM
Boob, agreed, I didn't mean you should actively aim to roll it, just that it would give you more damage overall than any other talent you can take at that point. The commenter was wondering whether it was worth it at all, and I think it's clear that while it's not as crazy good as it was in wrath, it's still worth taking in cataclysm.And great point about SMF. Less strikes with bigger crits are better for deep wounds and ignite type mechanics right now.
2-07-2011 @ 1:19PM
As to Deep Wounds v. Incite, it's mostly a matter of gear currently. Crit rates are lower, and thus the benefit of Deep Wounds isn't as large as it could be. Likewise, lower base crit rates increase the value of Incite. If we had wrath-like crit rates around 50%, taking DW would be a no-brainer. Combined with the 4.06 HS nerfs, I'd expect Deep Wounds to be clearly superior at some future gear level.With regards to the Deep Wounds difference between TG and SMF, even if we leave aside the possibility of munching ticks, TG will wind up ahead. DW bleeds started from white swing crits will probably roughly equal (more procs from SMF, but larger ones from TG), the crits from special attacks will be significantly stronger for TG warriors.
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