Blood Sport: How to cultivate successful PvP attitudes, part 2
Every week, WoW Insider brings you Blood Sport for arena enthusiasts and The Art of War(craft) for fans of battlegrounds and world PvP. Want to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women? C. Christian Moore, multiple rank 1 Gladiator, examines the latest arena strategy, trends, compositions and more.
Last week, we discussed how to expect victory and be self-critical instead of blaming, as well as the importance of being lighthearted. This week, we'll be discussing a similar topic -- this could easily be part two in our series of successful PvP attitude.
Staying optimistic is much more relevant when "big things" happen. One of your teammates just quit your team after you've been pushing for gladiator for a month? You disconnect against a rival team? Patch notes say that you're being nerfed to the ground? If you've weathered the small storms that have passed by with a good attitude, you'll be much more prepared when tornadoes and hurricanes hit.
Looking at the world optimistically comes much easier for some than others. I've played with partners who can't be brought down, no matter what goes wrong. If we lose five straight, they're still eager to PvP because they believe something good will happen from it.
Set optimistic, attainable goals
Optimism isn't setting unreasonable expectations of yourself. If you've never hit gladiator before, setting a lofty goal of rank 1 Gladiator might sound awesome on the surface, but you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. Here are some goals that I always set for myself when I PvP:
One of my goals is to have a good time. I don't join an arena raid thinking, "Why am I doing this?" or, "I don't want to be here right now," or "I don't like my teammates." My expectation is to have a good time first and foremost, not to win lots of arena games in a row.
If I were all about winning, I'd be much more burned out on arena. Continuing to win in arena is very difficult. In a raiding environment, once all the bosses are on farm, it's not uncommon to fly through an instance and have no one wipe. Opponents never go on farm mode within the arena -- they're constantly reinventing their strategies and team compositions in order to beat you. Setting a goal of going undefeated isn't going to keep you optimistic.
Another goal of mine is to meet new friends. Although I find myself doing arena with the same general nucleus of people, branching out is still somewhat common. Rated battlegrounds have made great strides in getting people to PvP with others -- I've wanted to do arena with so many people I've been impressed with inside a battleground.
Although I'd love to say that my Scarab Lord Mount, Thunderfury, or Rank 1 Titles keep me coming back to the game, it's mostly friends. Virtually all of my friends in WoW are either real-life friends or people I PvP with. The more I PvP, the more access to friendships I have within WoW. Having a good time is a lot less about what you're doing and a lot more about who you're with when you're doing it.
I always set a goal to learn more about PvP. Other than WoW, I've only played a few games in my life -- Magic: The Gathering, Chess, and Halo 2. Each of those games is pretty competitive in nature. Well, okay, competition is pretty much the only thing in those games, actually. You're trying to defeat your opponent in each of them. I guess it was a natural fit once I started playing WoW to jump into PvP and stick with it.
PvP in WoW is very enjoyable, perhaps much more enjoyable than the other games I've played in the past. I've found that PvP is incredibly complex and interesting. Entering an arena or battleground isn't just about mashing random buttons and hoping to come away with a win -- games often evolve into battles of finesse and communication.
I'm always looking to learn more about not only my class and the classes of my opponents, but how those classes interact. Even the differences in arena selection (Dalaran Arena versus Nagrand Arena, for instance) can impact the strategy and playstyle of many teams, shifting the battle in an completely new direction. These subtle differences are very interesting nuances that make me appreciate the complexity of WoW PvP. Are some games decided by 10 giant crits in a row? Sure. Most aren't, however.
Optimism is contagious
Having a good attitude makes you much more likely to be successful in whatever you do. Gaining the respect and admiration of others is often tied to your attitude. Don't believe me? Think of the people you respect and admire. More likely than not, they have a successful attitude that spills over to others.
Staying optimistic and friendly is not only important to your enjoyment of the game, but also your teammates'. Being an optimist can change their attitude and perspective on the game for the better in dramatic ways. Interacting with others in a positive way can go a long way to making you a better person -- both inside WoW and outside of it.
Avoid arguments. If someone is wrong on an issue, there are better ways to handle it than starting an argument about it. Arguments are personal -- they're not formal debates or lawyers doing their job. People get defensive very quickly in arguments and ignore relevant or helpful advice. While you might be right about the subject, it won't do you any good if your teammate or friend won't listen to you.
A helpful tactic to avoid arguments is to use mimicry. Mimicry is doing what you want the other person to do before they do it. So, for instance, after a gut-wrenching loss, ask if there is anything you could do better. Maybe your teammates will actually have advice for you that is helpful -- even if your goal is to have them ask if there is anything they could do better (that's when you let them know what they could do better in a positive way).
Show respect. If you don't respect your teammate's opinion, he's not going to respect yours. The proverb "respect isn't given, it's earned," is kind of misleading. If you give respect freely, you'll most likely make a large return. I think a much better proverb is "as you sow, so shall you reap."
Admit wrongs. Teachers are some of the few men and women who you will always remember -- especially when they impact you in a meaningful way. My favorite high school teacher was big on lectures; much of the advice he had for my class will stick with me for the rest of my life.
That same teacher told me something that changed my life: "It takes a real man to admit when he's wrong. There are few things in the world that are more difficult than to admit we were wrong, and when someone does, I have far more respect for them than I had."
Talk about people positively. This goes for behind their back as well as to their face. People don't like finding out later that you voiced disapproval over something they did instead of just talking with them about it. It's a coward's move, and it is reprehensible to try to smear someone's reputation behind their back.
Even if you just get frustrated with a teammate, why not try to talk with him about it in a positive way? Try to get things solved instead of rolling around in discontent and frustration.
This also has an auxiliary lesson: If someone tells you their frustrations with another person, if they get frustrated with you, they will tell someone else. When I start playing with new teammates, I'll occasionally hear them make remarks about past teammates. "He is so bad," is a common one. "He never crowd controls," "he puts out zero damage," etc.
Chances are that this same teammate will slash your reputation once he's done playing with you, too. Just nip it in the bud early on and tell him that you don't want to hear about other people in a negative light because you wouldn't want people to talk about you that way.
Listening music Woody Guthrie's Talking Dustbowl Blues. I love Woody Guthrie. I also understand a lot of people don't, so we won't be featuring him often, but every once in a while is just swell.
Read How to cultivate successful PvP attitudes.
Want to ascend the arena ladders faster than a fireman playing Donkey Kong? We'll steer you to victory with the best arena addons and let you in on some rank 1 gladiator PvP secrets. If you're looking for the inside line on battlegrounds and world PvP, read The Art of War(craft).
Last week, we discussed how to expect victory and be self-critical instead of blaming, as well as the importance of being lighthearted. This week, we'll be discussing a similar topic -- this could easily be part two in our series of successful PvP attitude.
Staying optimistic is much more relevant when "big things" happen. One of your teammates just quit your team after you've been pushing for gladiator for a month? You disconnect against a rival team? Patch notes say that you're being nerfed to the ground? If you've weathered the small storms that have passed by with a good attitude, you'll be much more prepared when tornadoes and hurricanes hit.
Looking at the world optimistically comes much easier for some than others. I've played with partners who can't be brought down, no matter what goes wrong. If we lose five straight, they're still eager to PvP because they believe something good will happen from it.
Set optimistic, attainable goals
Optimism isn't setting unreasonable expectations of yourself. If you've never hit gladiator before, setting a lofty goal of rank 1 Gladiator might sound awesome on the surface, but you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. Here are some goals that I always set for myself when I PvP:
One of my goals is to have a good time. I don't join an arena raid thinking, "Why am I doing this?" or, "I don't want to be here right now," or "I don't like my teammates." My expectation is to have a good time first and foremost, not to win lots of arena games in a row.
If I were all about winning, I'd be much more burned out on arena. Continuing to win in arena is very difficult. In a raiding environment, once all the bosses are on farm, it's not uncommon to fly through an instance and have no one wipe. Opponents never go on farm mode within the arena -- they're constantly reinventing their strategies and team compositions in order to beat you. Setting a goal of going undefeated isn't going to keep you optimistic.
Another goal of mine is to meet new friends. Although I find myself doing arena with the same general nucleus of people, branching out is still somewhat common. Rated battlegrounds have made great strides in getting people to PvP with others -- I've wanted to do arena with so many people I've been impressed with inside a battleground.
Although I'd love to say that my Scarab Lord Mount, Thunderfury, or Rank 1 Titles keep me coming back to the game, it's mostly friends. Virtually all of my friends in WoW are either real-life friends or people I PvP with. The more I PvP, the more access to friendships I have within WoW. Having a good time is a lot less about what you're doing and a lot more about who you're with when you're doing it.
I always set a goal to learn more about PvP. Other than WoW, I've only played a few games in my life -- Magic: The Gathering, Chess, and Halo 2. Each of those games is pretty competitive in nature. Well, okay, competition is pretty much the only thing in those games, actually. You're trying to defeat your opponent in each of them. I guess it was a natural fit once I started playing WoW to jump into PvP and stick with it.
PvP in WoW is very enjoyable, perhaps much more enjoyable than the other games I've played in the past. I've found that PvP is incredibly complex and interesting. Entering an arena or battleground isn't just about mashing random buttons and hoping to come away with a win -- games often evolve into battles of finesse and communication.
I'm always looking to learn more about not only my class and the classes of my opponents, but how those classes interact. Even the differences in arena selection (Dalaran Arena versus Nagrand Arena, for instance) can impact the strategy and playstyle of many teams, shifting the battle in a
Optimism is contagious
Having a good attitude makes you much more likely to be successful in whatever you do. Gaining the respect and admiration of others is often tied to your attitude. Don't believe me? Think of the people you respect and admire. More likely than not, they have a successful attitude that spills over to others.
Staying optimistic and friendly is not only important to your enjoyment of the game, but also your teammates'. Being an optimist can change their attitude and perspective on the game for the better in dramatic ways. Interacting with others in a positive way can go a long way to making you a better person -- both inside WoW and outside of it.
Avoid arguments. If someone is wrong on an issue, there are better ways to handle it than starting an argument about it. Arguments are personal -- they're not formal debates or lawyers doing their job. People get defensive very quickly in arguments and ignore relevant or helpful advice. While you might be right about the subject, it won't do you any good if your teammate or friend won't listen to you.
A helpful tactic to avoid arguments is to use mimicry. Mimicry is doing what you want the other person to do before they do it. So, for instance, after a gut-wrenching loss, ask if there is anything you could do better. Maybe your teammates will actually have advice for you that is helpful -- even if your goal is to have them ask if there is anything they could do better (that's when you let them know what they could do better in a positive way).
Show respect. If you don't respect your teammate's opinion, he's not going to respect yours. The proverb "respect isn't given, it's earned," is kind of misleading. If you give respect freely, you'll most likely make a large return. I think a much better proverb is "as you sow, so shall you reap."
Admit wrongs. Teachers are some of the few men and women who you will always remember -- especially when they impact you in a meaningful way. My favorite high school teacher was big on lectures; much of the advice he had for my class will stick with me for the rest of my life.
That same teacher told me something that changed my life: "It takes a real man to admit when he's wrong. There are few things in the world that are more difficult than to admit we were wrong, and when someone does, I have far more respect for them than I had."
Talk about people positively. This goes for behind their back as well as to their face. People don't like finding out later that you voiced disapproval over something they did instead of just talking with them about it. It's a coward's move, and it is reprehensible to try to smear someone's reputation behind their back.
Even if you just get frustrated with a teammate, why not try to talk with him about it in a positive way? Try to get things solved instead of rolling around in discontent and frustration.
This also has an auxiliary lesson: If someone tells you their frustrations with another person, if they get frustrated with you, they will tell someone else. When I start playing with new teammates, I'll occasionally hear them make remarks about past teammates. "He is so bad," is a common one. "He never crowd controls," "he puts out zero damage," etc.
Chances are that this same teammate will slash your reputation once he's done playing with you, too. Just nip it in the bud early on and tell him that you don't want to hear about other people in a negative light because you wouldn't want people to talk about you that way.
Listening music Woody Guthrie's Talking Dustbowl Blues. I love Woody Guthrie. I also understand a lot of people don't, so we won't be featuring him often, but every once in a while is just swell.
Read How to cultivate successful PvP attitudes.
Want to ascend the arena ladders faster than a fireman playing Donkey Kong? We'll steer you to victory with the best arena addons and let you in on some rank 1 gladiator PvP secrets. If you're looking for the inside line on battlegrounds and world PvP, read The Art of War(craft). Filed under: PvP, Blood Sport (Arena PvP)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Idaelus Feb 8th 2011 6:51PM
Magic: The Gathering, Chess, and Halo 2 eh Christian? Are you my clone? :O
C.Christian.Moore Feb 9th 2011 11:49AM
Idaelus,
I olympic lift too, but that's not really a game. :) Glad to see someone else enjoys awesome games. If you want to play some online chess or talk game strategies, hit me up on Kel'Thuzad Alliance. My character's name is Rrhage.
C. Christian Moore
Contributing Editor
wow.joystiq.com
Idaelus Feb 9th 2011 12:52PM
C Christian:
Well, i certainly don't Olympic lift, Most of my heavy workouts these days consist of 12oz. curls. :P I will probably give you a shout to talk game strat someday, soon as I work out the kinks in my new work schedule. :)
Even though I don't arena much (Mostly with my wife for funsies), I read your articles every week for the great overall advice, and use it constantly while in BGs to make my healer an indestructible nightmare for alliance players. Thanks for all the hard work.
Jessie the brutal Feb 8th 2011 6:52PM
Honestly this really isn't about pvp or pvp strategies.....
Harvoc Feb 8th 2011 7:27PM
Wait so attitudes in PvP isn't related to PvP? That's mind-boggling don't you think?
Matrillik Feb 8th 2011 8:22PM
Although your post is blacked out and mine probably will be too, I have to agree with Jesse to some extent. Yes attitudes are a very important aspect of pvp. They're a very important aspect of every single thing you do in your life. You would be hard pressed to find something you did in the last week that wouldn't have gone smoother with a positive attitude. This isn't so much a pvp article as it is a life advice article. I may sound whiny but I find that the articles are much more interesting when they investigate the interactions between classes or the varying playstyles corresponding to different maps. But that's just me.
Tankizgay Feb 8th 2011 9:39PM
Ive got to agree, he clearly has writers block
C.Christian.Moore Feb 9th 2011 3:12AM
Jessie,
Every once in a while, it's good to write about the attitude of a good PvPer rather than PvP itself. Last week's article is largely about life lessons as well. While I don't do these kinds of articles often, they're just as important as talking about why Blade Edge Arena's Z-Axis benefits certain compositions.
Some things go outside the game, like interacting with teammates. As much as I'd like to bring that down to talking about game mechanics, it's not. Arguably, interacting with teammates is one of the most important aspects of arena.
Thanks for the comment.
C. Christian Moore
Contributing Editor
wow.joystiq.com
Noyou Feb 8th 2011 7:05PM
Forgot to mention winning. It's the single most important ingredient in cultivating a successful PvP attitude. Like it or not that's what it comes down to. Now some people you run with will be ok with not winning all the time. But the vast majority will bail on you faster than you can blow all your defensive CD's. There are exceptions to the rule. Even good friends can only take so much of a beating though. It all comes down to winning.
Harvoc Feb 8th 2011 7:25PM
Well yea, you have to win at least once in order to continue playing, but I think that saying that it all comes down to winning is a bit of an exaggeration.
Raginghobo Feb 8th 2011 7:54PM
Thats exactly the attitude this article is trying to get people to change. Winning is a by product that will come more easily if you have a good attitude while you or your teammates are learning arena for the first time or class combinations etc.
pkasarski Feb 8th 2011 8:04PM
Well ok sure, no one plays to lose, but IN ORDER TO win, you have to have a good attitude. I think that was the point of this article. (Good article, btw)
Dreyja Feb 8th 2011 8:08PM
Why do you keep choosing such awesome music for a column I almost never READ?! ;-p Curse you MOORE!
/hats off to you sir.
Dreyja Feb 8th 2011 8:12PM
P.S. Still off topic. If you want to hear an awesome Guthrie cover give Ani Difranco listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9InAk2dtfE
Sorry. :(
PVP - yeah. Good stuff that! Hup, HUP! :D
Hangk Feb 8th 2011 10:29PM
How big an idiot am I for not going Unholy for PvP after 4.06?
Chokaa Feb 9th 2011 7:26AM
Not THAT big, death's advance is tits, but so's the roots aspect added onto chillblains. I was doin some 2h frost pvp since motfw got buffed, and its got some nice burst dps and control. Chillblains+desecration = sex.
Necromann Feb 8th 2011 11:19PM
The teacher's quote that I remember the most is "life sucks then you die". Not optimistic, but related to one of the paragraphs.
Hammyfan2 Feb 9th 2011 1:34AM
I find that listening to silly music during matches dulls the sting of a loss. Look up Giga Pudding on Youtube for my favorite losing streak tune
C.Christian.Moore Feb 9th 2011 3:14AM
Hammyfan2,
We play stuff like Eye of the Tiger, Don't Stop Believing, and stuff from the Rocky soundtracks when we're in the middle of a small losing streak. It's intentionally cheesy. Pumps us up. :)
C. Christian Moore
Contributing Editor
wow.joystiq.com
ISA Feb 9th 2011 9:45AM
Personally, I like to listen to Yakety Sax or some other inappropriate music during PvP. Barry White while dueling to the death a undead rogue vs my dwarf hunter? Sexy.