The OverAchiever: Farewell to The Exalted

I don't usually cover time-sensitive material in The OverAchiever -- achievements are a pretty static feature overall -- but sometimes you find yourself staring down a 64-page and growing thread on the forums and realizing that something of import has happened. That something would be Blizzard's decision to move The Exalted title from 40 Exalted Reputations to 50 Exalted Reputations.
That's not a big deal on its own -- but everybody who already had the title without having 50 Exalted Reputations suddenly found themselves without The Exalted after this week's patch.
Cue forum explosion.
A change of policy
Blizzard's normal policy, as Ghostcrawler (lead systems designer) observed in a June 2010 interview on Wowhead, has been to avoid the unpleasantness of having game changes affect achievement status: "We don't like taking achievements away from players," he said. The general assumption has been that a player with a title or achievement can count on having it forever (unless it was gotten via a bug or hack).
The closest that players have come to "losing" achievements has been the periodic shifts we see when certain achievements become feats of strength and no longer award achievement points. Many players lost achievements points in the transition from Wrath of the Lich King to Cataclysm as a result of this practice, but few people cared. Achievement points don't really mean anything, and players are generally proud to have feats of strength that nobody can get anymore.
So the sudden (and as far as I'm aware, previously unannounced) change yanking The Exalted from players who may have been using it for years is a major policy reversal. Nobody really cares that Blizzard felt obligated to bump the title to 50 Exalted Reputations; that makes sense, given the number of easy reputations in the game as of Cataclysm, which made a title at 40 a bit pointless. However, taking a title from people who had it previously is a far more troubling development.
There were a number of forum threads created after this discovery, but Bashiok showed up to one in order to explain what was going on:
We think "the Exalted" is a really awesome title. With Cataclysm we added a bunch of new reps though, and we want the title to keep pace so that it's always representative of someone that's obtained a considerable number of exalted reputations throughout the life of the game, even as we add more.
We did consider offering multiple titles for the various tiers, but "the Exalted" fits so perfectly and we wanted to avoid a potentially infinite string of titles like "the Fairly Exalted", "the Nigh Exalted", "the Mostly Exalted", etc. We also considered grandfathering in those who had already earned it but think that this title can be a unique testament to the continued efforts of reputation hunters and keep the same value as we introduce more reps and push the requirements up to match.
It's different than every other rep in the way we're raising it with a new bar to meet, and I do apologize that it wasn't communicated clearly beforehand that it was going to be functioning this way.
We did consider offering multiple titles for the various tiers, but "the Exalted" fits so perfectly and we wanted to avoid a potentially infinite string of titles like "the Fairly Exalted", "the Nigh Exalted", "the Mostly Exalted", etc. We also considered grandfathering in those who had already earned it but think that this title can be a unique testament to the continued efforts of reputation hunters and keep the same value as we introduce more reps and push the requirements up to match.
It's different than every other rep in the way we're raising it with a new bar to meet, and I do apologize that it wasn't communicated clearly beforehand that it was going to be functioning this way.
As the game evolves
I can see where Blizzard's coming from on the issue, because achievements like The Exalted have to keep pace with how the game evolves. (Concerning the "infinite string of titles" mentioned by Bashiok, you have to wonder what Blizzard's going to do when the developers inevitably run out of appropriate adjectives -- Wrathful, Vengeful -- for gladiatorial seasons.) 40 Exalted Reputations is just not very difficult anymore, and it makes little sense to award a coveted title to players who can coast through most of it. Reputation grinds were one of the most nightmarish parts of the game in classic WoW and (arguably) The Burning Crusade, but these days? You can tabard your way through a huge chunk of the reputation achievements.
On that point, I think most players are actually agreed. Very few of the criticisms leveled at this decision address the actual achievement change; players aren't bothered by the system changes that make The Exalted at 50 more appropriate. For my part, I also agree that another "Exalted" title would have been silly and unnecessary. The actual change is a realistic response to how the game has advanced.
However, few people will argue that this is a public relations fiasco; the failure to announce a change guaranteed to affect a lot of players who'd already put serious work into reputation achievements was all but guaranteed to be exactly that. As many players observed in the linked forum thread, it's a bit cruel to snatch a title away from the folks who got it when 40 Exalted Reputations was genuinely difficult (hands up, all those of you who remember the Timbermaw and Alliance/Horde grinds of yesteryear). The need to make "continued efforts," as Bashiok phrases it, also raises the ugly specter of having to be tethered to the game just to keep something your character already had.
I think that bothers players a lot -- and frankly, I don't blame them. This move ranks among Blizzard's more reasonable decisions game-wise, but the delivery of the message and the decision not to grandfather players who already had the title are questionable at best.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 9)
Thomas Higgins Feb 10th 2011 5:06PM
If I had had the Exalted title, and had it taken away from me by Blizzard's crass, stupid, idiotic and frankly contemptous decision to remove it, it would have caused me to at once cancel my subscription. I have had it up to here with their at times vindictive treatment of the folks that play the game that makes them so much bloody money that they feel that as a company they can get away with doing whatever the hell they like to the people that give them it.
There is no justification for this decision. None. You are welcome to try, fellow forumites, but I will just stick my fingers in my ears, and shout nanananana, I'm not listening.
Cause I am not, ye know.
Infinite Duck Feb 10th 2011 5:19PM
You think they would've learned after the removal of the Black and Plagued Proto Drakes from Naxx, that players tolerance for taking away things like this is minimal. I was three achievements short of the Plagued and found out when my guildies and I checked our meta to see what we needed to get for that week. We were horrified to find no reward for the meta. We had been working so hard to get it.
I can imagine how horrible it be to wake up and notice your missing title only to find out Blizzard had yanked it and simply said "Sorry too easy to get, try again and harder this time!" I imagine the Exalted titled people out there felt like I did with the drakes. Cheated.
On the plus side, at least the title wasn't completely removed from the game, but to take it away from people, low. Very low. *shakes fist at Blizzard*
matthewggrammer Feb 10th 2011 5:27PM
This is the biggest, most important thing ever.
noel mcleod Feb 10th 2011 5:39PM
I voted this up because I BELIEVE it is written "tongue-in-cheek". Quit your QQ'ing, if you don't like the game stop playing. (And if you've already earned the Exalted title once, and you DON'T like the game, go see a shrink ...).
Now get out there and get those other 10 reps so you can go back to lording it over us plebes and lowbies.
Majorfalcon Feb 10th 2011 6:00PM
WoW.com : If it's not my way, I'll cancel my subscription bliz. I swear to god.
Seriously people. You guys find a new thing to QQ about every week.
Noyou Feb 10th 2011 6:47PM
The thing that I don't get is 6 of those reps are fairly easy to get so I don't buy that "raising the bar line of crap". I am already honored with Gilneas on a couple of my toons for doing quests that give basline alliance rep. It's just spitting in the face of the valued customers who spend cash on subscriptions year after year. Hell I am of the thinking that if you have 5-6 years continuous service you should get something for that. And not "oh you got cata" BS either. Something above what joe blow just joined up on a free trial gets. Something like a free race/customization or BoA mount. Something substantial. I'm definitely not holding my breath. Even though I only have a fraction of exalted reps I am sickened by this latest blunder. For the last 2-3 renewals I have been asking myself do I really want to keep giving them money? Things like this make it easier and easier to say hell no.
toddcore Feb 10th 2011 7:20PM
I agree that removing the title from people who had already earned it was a boneheaded mistake.
With that being said, regardless of what anyone might tell you it does not help you make your case to a company to threaten them with things like subscription cancellations. People don't like to be threatened and considering how insignificant your subscription actually is to them and the fact that an incredibly small percentage of people who threaten such actions actually follow through and you just end up making them indignant and causing them to disregard whatever else you say.
Cowy Feb 10th 2011 8:36PM
As someone who is for the great and most part, a solo player getting my "The Exalted" title was work. HARD work, that took the majority of the WOTLK expansion to acquire, and long grinds (Without the help of doing dungeons to speed things along easy mode.)
To take this from me, well... I guess I could say "slap in the face" you know... the usual stuff.
Its just... well, its rude, Blizzard. Its Cruel, Unkind, Unjust. This title was something I worked at, that I was proud to display, that I earned through hard labor... was whisked away with a few keystrokes of code, and a major" LUL U MAD, BRO?" * trollface*.
I worked for that. Eff you. I earned that, and you killed it without even two seconds of thought.
For one single moment please, contemplate the time that you have easily and carelessly whisked away... for it has been taken from me in a blink of an eye. It should be mourned. I'm NOT an immortal being with endless surplus.
Heilig Feb 10th 2011 9:30PM
WotLK Exalted: 40 reps
New reps in Cata
Gilneas/Bilgewater
Ramkahen
Guardians of Hyjal
Earthen Ring
Therazane
Wildhammer/Dragonmaw
Baradin's/Hellscream's
40+7 = ...50?
That's the part that bothers me. If you don't enjoy PvP, you can forget about this achievement being realistic. Non-PvPers may as well go for the Insane, since you will have to have a few of those at Exalted anyway just to get this new title that you already had.
I already canceled my subscription. I can forgive gear resets. I can forgive complete removal of titles/items/mounts, etc. But to take something from me I already earned and say "Oh, you can have it back...if you work a little harder. Come on now, just a little bit more, just a few more months" is simply unforgivable.
I'm not a donkey, Blizzard. You can't keep me going for the carrot by making the stick longer. Enjoy WoW's inevitable decline and fall. I will be spending my time and money elsewhere, thank you.
Jabadabadana Feb 10th 2011 9:42PM
it's not quite 40+7. several of the old world rep grinds, see Thorium Brotherhood, and Argent Dawn, are much much easier to grind through quests. I think my level 48 is now revered with the Argent Dawn, and didn't do all the quests in EPL.
If there's another low level one that's easy, I haven't figured it out yet, however, 40+9 is a lot closer to 50, and by now, most people with 40 prob had either 41+, or are/were close to 41+.
I have 51 exalted reps, but I still think it was a stupid mode. If anything, anyone who got the achi pre-cata deserves the damn title, and really, I don't think too many people got 40 between cata release and 4.06.
Vorken Feb 10th 2011 10:15PM
I was actually hoping they would do this with all the cata stuff when it came out. Re-achieving "The Explorer", "The Exalted", "The Loremaster"...i think it would have made good sense. Doing it now, not so much, but better late than never.
I like the grinds, i already have 46 exalted reps and none of the cata ones yet, so this shouldnt be too hard for me.
JT Feb 10th 2011 10:45PM
Blizzard is a developer of MMOs. MMOs keep their subscriptions by presenting players with ever-changing goals. This thread is full of whining about a developer of MMOs...acting like a developer of MMOs. Crying about this is the same as crying that you replaced your ICC purples with Vash'jir greens.
Some people really need to find a new hobby.
devilsei Feb 11th 2011 1:07AM
Alright JT, here's your perfect MMO.
Tier 1 raid is released, you grind up all your gear and raid it, get a legendary all that.
I release Tier 2, so I decide to take all your gear away, legendary included, and tell you "Too bad, the game's evolving so just keep up", so now you got to raid Tier 1 again and get that legendary, oh wait nvm on that since i removed it without warning, then you can raid T2.
Repeat ad nauseum. Oh, and when I release an expansion, even if the levels don't change, I delete your character and guild too, just cause the game is changing.
Surgeon Feb 11th 2011 1:54AM
What happens next expansion? Take it away from everybody once again and say "get it at 60 reputations now." And so on for future expansions. Really? Are they gonna keep yanking everyone's chains every time more reputations get added to the game? I didn't have the title but why would I even work for it now knowing that every time I get it it can or will be taken away?
Herman Feb 11th 2011 2:18AM
as someone who has had the exalted, and now doesn't, this seems awesome. i really only ground out 40 reps cause i was bored and liked shiny titles, same reason i was working towards loremaster. now i have a tangible reason to get 50 reps, and to finish the hydraxian waterlords and several other grinds. my only regret is that i probably have to do a couple of the goblin cities or the 2 remaining pvp reps. but really it just seems like a fun grind to distract me on the 5 days when i'm not raiding.
also, 40 exalted reps is insanely easy now. you don't even need raid reps to get it.
Baba Feb 11th 2011 5:35AM
This would be a fine change IF they had made the cap 45 or 47.
If someone got 40 exalted reputations in WotLK, then you'd naturally re-acheive this by grinding out your cata reps with everyone else, the achievement would therefore still reward those people who've grinded out old-world / BC reps for this thing.
Another 10 reputations though... That forces people go back onto the old-world grind, and I don't agree with it.
lethian Feb 11th 2011 9:04AM
LOL and i would have put more credit iinto you post if you were not being a child about it and actually saying something important :D
The Dewd Feb 11th 2011 12:33PM
Don't forget - if you're just questing around and/or doing dailies/dungeons/etc, you're also going to eventually hit exalted with your guild. That's probably #50.
Jeff Feb 10th 2011 5:11PM
I think taking the title from those who had it was a real mistake, and they've crossed a distressing line here. I didn't have the title myself, but I'm concerned about the implications for similar achievements and rewards. It no longer feels like once you've earned something, you'll never lose it.
Spellotape Feb 10th 2011 5:24PM
I wouldn't really say a title and achievement like "The Exalted" is especially common in the game, so I'm not sure how distressing this can be. A lot of the existing achievements are raid/dungeon-related, for levelling trade skills, or for pvp etc - I don't really see how they could turn around and suddenly say "sorry, you didn't kill the Lich King - no Kingslayer for you!".