The OverAchiever: Farewell to The Exalted

I don't usually cover time-sensitive material in The OverAchiever -- achievements are a pretty static feature overall -- but sometimes you find yourself staring down a 64-page and growing thread on the forums and realizing that something of import has happened. That something would be Blizzard's decision to move The Exalted title from 40 Exalted Reputations to 50 Exalted Reputations.
That's not a big deal on its own -- but everybody who already had the title without having 50 Exalted Reputations suddenly found themselves without The Exalted after this week's patch.
Cue forum explosion.
A change of policy
Blizzard's normal policy, as Ghostcrawler (lead systems designer) observed in a June 2010 interview on Wowhead, has been to avoid the unpleasantness of having game changes affect achievement status: "We don't like taking achievements away from players," he said. The general assumption has been that a player with a title or achievement can count on having it forever (unless it was gotten via a bug or hack).
The closest that players have come to "losing" achievements has been the periodic shifts we see when certain achievements become feats of strength and no longer award achievement points. Many players lost achievements points in the transition from Wrath of the Lich King to Cataclysm as a result of this practice, but few people cared. Achievement points don't really mean anything, and players are generally proud to have feats of strength that nobody can get anymore.
So the sudden (and as far as I'm aware, previously unannounced) change yanking The Exalted from players who may have been using it for years is a major policy reversal. Nobody really cares that Blizzard felt obligated to bump the title to 50 Exalted Reputations; that makes sense, given the number of easy reputations in the game as of Cataclysm, which made a title at 40 a bit pointless. However, taking a title from people who had it previously is a far more troubling development.
There were a number of forum threads created after this discovery, but Bashiok showed up to one in order to explain what was going on:
BashiokWe think "the Exalted" is a really awesome title. With Cataclysm we added a bunch of new reps though, and we want the title to keep pace so that it's always representative of someone that's obtained a considerable number of exalted reputations throughout the life of the game, even as we add more.
We did consider offering multiple titles for the various tiers, but "the Exalted" fits so perfectly and we wanted to avoid a potentially infinite string of titles like "the Fairly Exalted", "the Nigh Exalted", "the Mostly Exalted", etc. We also considered grandfathering in those who had already earned it but think that this title can be a unique testament to the continued efforts of reputation hunters and keep the same value as we introduce more reps and push the requirements up to match.
It's different than every other rep in the way we're raising it with a new bar to meet, and I do apologize that it wasn't communicated clearly beforehand that it was going to be functioning this way.
We did consider offering multiple titles for the various tiers, but "the Exalted" fits so perfectly and we wanted to avoid a potentially infinite string of titles like "the Fairly Exalted", "the Nigh Exalted", "the Mostly Exalted", etc. We also considered grandfathering in those who had already earned it but think that this title can be a unique testament to the continued efforts of reputation hunters and keep the same value as we introduce more reps and push the requirements up to match.
It's different than every other rep in the way we're raising it with a new bar to meet, and I do apologize that it wasn't communicated clearly beforehand that it was going to be functioning this way.
As the game evolves
I can see where Blizzard's coming from on the issue, because achievements like The Exalted have to keep pace with how the game evolves. (Concerning the "infinite string of titles" mentioned by Bashiok, you have to wonder what Blizzard's going to do when the developers inevitably run out of appropriate adjectives -- Wrathful, Vengeful -- for gladiatorial seasons.) 40 Exalted Reputations is just not very difficult anymore, and it makes little sense to award a coveted title to players who can coast through most of it. Reputation grinds were one of the most nightmarish parts of the game in classic WoW and (arguably) The Burning Crusade, but these days? You can tabard your way through a huge chunk of the reputation achievements.
On that point, I think most players are actually agreed. Very few of the criticisms leveled at this decision address the actual achievement change; players aren't bothered by the system changes that make The Exalted at 50 more appropriate. For my part, I also agree that another "Exalted" title would have been silly and unnecessary. The actual change is a realistic response to how the game has advanced.
However, few people will argue that this is a public relations fiasco; the failure to announce a change guaranteed to affect a lot of players who'd already put serious work into reputation achievements was all but guaranteed to be exactly that. As many players observed in the linked forum thread, it's a bit cruel to snatch a title away from the folks who got it when 40 Exalted Reputations was genuinely difficult (hands up, all those of you who remember the Timbermaw and Alliance/Horde grinds of yesteryear). The need to make "continued efforts," as Bashiok phrases it, also raises the ugly specter of having to be tethered to the game just to keep something your character already had.
I think that bothers players a lot -- and frankly, I don't blame them. This move ranks among Blizzard's more reasonable decisions game-wise, but the delivery of the message and the decision not to grandfather players who already had the title are questionable at best.
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Reader Comments (Page 4 of 9)
jfofla Feb 10th 2011 5:26PM
I am fine with it being taken away.
Why?
Because I got mine in Wrath when I felt it meant something.
Now I just am a few reps away from getting it again, and it again seeming special.
Which brings me to a question. I have 48 Exalted Reps, but in the Achievement Counter for the 50, it lists me at 45. Is this happening to anybody else? When I grind out two more Reps and it does not give me 50, THEN I will be pissed. AND, it damn well better count my Zandalar.
Neirin Feb 10th 2011 5:39PM
The achieve counted both my Zandalar and Shen'dralar reps, as well as Frenzyheart (which I switched to Oracles for the achievement to get the mercenary achievement).
SpaceGoatPriest Feb 10th 2011 5:26PM
I think the largest blunder of the whole situation is lack of communication. Was there even nary a mention of this change, anywhere? I "lost" my title, but it's not a big deal to me, because I always use 'Salty'. However, I can understand how upset this can make some people. If I were to log in only to find out I now have to have the sea turtle achievement in order to have the Salty title (it was retroactively removed from me), I would be pretty upset.
It just seems like such an odd reversal of their policy. They got a lot of complaints about the Naxx dragons, and this is almost the same situation. Granted it is not "game changing", but a change went through with no warning. That is what is most upsetting to me. They know better to warn us when something is going to change like that. Same on you Blizzard.
Karch Feb 10th 2011 5:29PM
Is "the Twice-Exalted" such a hard idea to come up with?
JC_Icefox Feb 10th 2011 7:00PM
I'd be very happy if they added 'Your BFF,' at 40.
silvanis_s Feb 10th 2011 5:49PM
Why stop there? What about Loremaster (hey! there's more lore! you can't be a master anymore until you do these quests too!) or Explorer (Brann's not taking a vacation after Ulduar, why should you?)? What makes the reputation achievement so special?
Irish Feb 10th 2011 5:31PM
"Oh ye virtual mounts and titles! Look what havoc ye wrought." Look the saddest part about this is that they screwed their best customers. I mean, if someone has that titles that means they have put in some serious time and money into the game. I have never heard of a business model that was fine with pissing off the hand that fed them. Thats like Macdonalds taking away the "happy meal". If they did that I promise you my son wouldn't want to eat there, man, I wish they would do away with the happy meal :P.... Yeah this isnt the noob getting it put to them, but the good ole' "been paying" customer... I dont have the title, but sorry to you guys that do..I say storm the forums and raise virtual hell like your real name is about to be made public...
TinyLittleRobot Feb 10th 2011 5:31PM
Has anyone mentioned changing it to "The Revered" yet?
Sorro Feb 10th 2011 5:32PM
I see no reason not to let players who reached 40 exalted factions keep their title as long as they reached it when 40 factions was difficult. Just make new players get to 50 to obtain the achievement now. It's such a simple concept and exponentially more agreeable than the crap they decided on.
Also, did they really introduce 10 new factions in Cata? I think the amount should only have increased by the number of new factions...
Chairman Kaga Feb 10th 2011 5:33PM
They grandfathered in characters with the Loremaster title, even after they pretty much zeroed out everyone's quest counts with Cataclysm.
I don't understand why they didn't do the same thing with Exalted. That's pretty fail, when you have an obvious solution and don't use it.
Alderem Feb 10th 2011 5:33PM
"...few people will argue that this is a public relations fiasco..."
I think you meant to say, "few people will argue that this _isn't_ a public relations fiasco..."
Utakata Feb 10th 2011 5:36PM
This was an incredibley disingenuous move on Blizz's part. Knowing players who really worked hard for that title only to have unceremoniously stripped with such contempt and disreguard for them because the devs are "raising the bar" is just completely bad form. Especially when anyone can look it up on the Armory to tell when they got it...the players who have already gotten it, should have not lost it.
If there is evidence that Blizz devs makes careless decisons in their hubris, this is one of them. This is only going to frustrate players and drive a further wedge of distrust between players and Bliz. One that I thought Blizz was trying to mend with some of their more positive initiatives with Heroics as of the last patch.
Jayjay Feb 10th 2011 5:40PM
My final one for my 40 was actually 'Brood of Nozdormu' - thats a really hard one to grind out and I felt I really earned my title. Now its gone. Would I nerdrage quit over it? Of course not. Am I miffed because I had to WORK to get it - you betcha.
I would have preferred to see something like 'Old wolrd exalted' title for those of us who had to mind numbingly grind out rep for the vanilla factions (been stuck on revered for ages for the Hydraxian waterlords - I stoppped once i got my title because it was either that or gouge my eyes out with a spoon)
Sinfulle Feb 10th 2011 6:23PM
That's a great idea, they could have The Exalted achievements with a subtitle for each stage of the game, whether it be Original WoW, Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, or Cataclysm. With each new expansion release they could make the old one a feat of strength so the new achievement would still grant points and what not, but not overwrite accomplishments of the past. As long as people get to display that they worked their butts off in game.
Rewil Feb 10th 2011 5:40PM
They've locked the forum thread.
I'm pretty discouraged right now. The person I used to play WoW with quit a while back. I'm still in a guild, but raiding isn't particularly fun for me although I like my guildmates well enough.
I think I've run out of things to do in WoW that are enjoyable and rewarding. But it was a good ride, at least, even if I did get into the game relatively late (March 2009).
Caz Feb 10th 2011 5:41PM
The best solution, in my opinion, would have been to convert the 40 Rep achievement into a Feat of Strength, making it no longer obtainable, but letting those that earned it keep their title.
A new achievement that granted the tile at 50 Reps could have been added for players who did not yet have it.
Next ex-pack, the 50 Rep achievement could be converted to a Feat, and a new achievement for 60 reps could be added that granted the title.
This way, every player sporting the title would have the honor of a prestigious title that was earned when it rare and difficult, regardless of the quantity of reputations required or the time period it was earned. Yes, it's easier to get 40 now, but that's because of things like the Argent Tournament and nerfs to other reps like Timbermaw and Thorium Brotherhood as well as the addition of tabard-reps.
I already cancelled my sub over this. Frankly, I don't care how common or easy the title is to get for other players. I know I earned it when it was difficult - and that's what mattered to me. It's the principle of the matter. Blizzard is wrong for stripping the title away from those who earned it, and that's all there is to it.
Paul Feb 10th 2011 5:41PM
Why they didn't approach it like they did the Loreseeker title is beyond me.
Let people that earnt "The Exalted" before 4.0 was released keep the title. Let people that didn't get it before that date work towards 50 factions.
Dalrint Feb 10th 2011 5:42PM
Remember, you have to run as fast as you can...just to keep up.
jealouspirate Feb 10th 2011 5:43PM
Horrible, horrible idea to not grandfather the title to people who already got it. Especially since things like Explorer and Loremaster have shown they have the ability. It also erodes any sense of trust or confidence we can have in Blizzard regarding titles and achievements.
What's safe now? I love my Salty. Do I have to be afraid of losing it when Blizzard decides to add another achievement? Same with Chef. Same with everything.
Think about this:
Are they going to remove the title AGAIN at the launch of the next expansion? And again and again for every expansion? Isn't that a ridiculous scenario?
jealouspirate Feb 10th 2011 5:45PM
That 65 page thread you mentioned?
Blizzard just locked it at 135 pages. Basically told people the change is staying and to do deal with it.
Not. Happy.