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2-14-2011 @ 8:21PM
I am a Disc priest and find that when I need to use my Heal or Greater Heal as fillers or when Penance is on CD that the heal is miles to long.I find that more often than not I end up killing the tank.I dodged Priest healing for about a month cos I felt so uncomfortable healing but I have decided to come back and make it work but it just doesn't seem to want to.I am going to go back to reforging gear again tonight when I get home.I just feel so lost with what I am supposed to be doing.I know this doesn't sound good but it almost makes me want to cry.
2-14-2011 @ 8:28PM
There will be times where you should use Flash Heal instead of Heal or Greater Heal but it shouldn't be all the time. If it happens almost every single time (it will happen occasionally if you try to use a long cast when you need a fast cast) try using Renew to buy yourself extra time between each heal. This is the perfect use for Renew as a disc priest. If you have Prayer of Mending off cooldown, opt to toss that out before you start casting too.
2-14-2011 @ 9:04PM
Another thing you could try is switching around when you use Penance and when you use shield if you haven't already. If you follow up Penance with PW:S then you'll be able to spend the Borrowed Time buff on Heal or Greater Heal. I know I'm often inclined to start the very beginning of a fight with PW:S since it'll absorb the first blow, and there is nothing wrong with that, but as the fight goes on if I find myself falling behind I'll play more strategically instead of just using whatever is off cooldown. I'll make a very conscious effort to use PW:S after Penance, so I know PW:S's haste buff is buffing something much slow. No sense in wasting Borrowed Time on Penance if things aren't going well.
2-14-2011 @ 9:10PM
Stacking Haste saves mana... because you are no longer required to use Flash Heal nearly as often.Also, the Large health pools in lvl85 characters are there so that Healers have time to cast long spells. If you don't have time to get off a heal, it might not be your fault. Are you in a Heroic? Are they CC-ing? More than three/four elite adds beating on a tank is now cause for concern for any healer. How is the Tank's gear? Do they have enough Dodge/Parry? Is it happening in the beginning of the fight, before the tank's abilities start negating, avoiding, reducing damage? (Shield, PoM, Renew before he even starts moving toward the adds) It the fight lasting too long, so that you run out of mana? If any of this sounds familiar, it's not your fault.Also, did you move over into Holy to get the Divine Fury talent? Or over into Shadow for their flat haste buff (Darkness)?You could move over into Holy, loose the Instant penance, but gain the ability to easily keep a renew on the tank.
2-15-2011 @ 12:42AM
Dawn, if I ain't wrong, Borrowed Time doesn't affect channeled spells, so there's nothing wrong with using PW:S before Penance.I've just tested it with my priest and it didn't affect Penance nor Divine Hymn.Actually, I usually use Penance AFTER PW:S, because that way I can stop any incoming damage, use Penance to heal my target for quite a bit and then follow with a Borrowed Time + Greater Heal to go back to a safe hp %.On a different note, WHERE'S MY COH: EPISODE 9?!
2-15-2011 @ 1:07AM
Bah you're right, I'm still thinking of the old Borrowed Time which could drop off mid cast of your second spell. That said, with shields lasting longer... should keep the health deficit of your target in mind before casting whatever.
2-15-2011 @ 1:09AM
Also there is a post on the forums about ep. 9 =P It's just late cause of raid and extra editing I need to do.
2-15-2011 @ 2:32AM
I thought the BT buff applied to channeled spells too. I was pretty sure that I tested it in Wrath and it affected channeled spells but wouldn't be consumed by them. I don't think I've tested it in cata though. I thought it was just some trick everybody knew about but just kept the loophole under wraps. ...Am I retarded?
Yes, BT does still give the haste buff to channeled spells without being consumed, just like in wrath. The only difference now is instead of BT buffing your haste, it buffs your next spell, so as long as you start casting within the 5 second duration of BT, you'll get the haste buff to your next casted spell.
2-15-2011 @ 10:14AM
Sorry about the double post, but in case I wasn't clear, what I meant is that the Borrowed Time buff is not consumed by channeled spells, so you can use Penance after PW:S and still have a reduced cast time in your next spell as long as you use it during the next 2 seconds-ish.
2-15-2011 @ 11:35AM
Couple things: 1.) Don't cry. It's a game. If you're uncomfortable, start slowly. Explain to the party that you need CC and to take it easy while you get in the swing of things. 2.) Stay away from flash heal if you can. It's an emergency healing tool meant to heal a little at a high mana cost. With that being said, don't let your tank die. Mana management can be tricky as you're gearing. 3.) Short (3 min and under) Cooldowns are meant to be used on demand. If you news to pop pain suppression AND then a trinket to make it through a heavy trash pull, so be it. It's faster to wait off that Cooldowns that do a corpse run. 4.) Open pulls with penance to stack the tank with grace. Since grace can be on more than one Target at a time, spot healing isn't as much of a challenge. If grace falls off, throw another penance on the tank. Hope that helps.
2-15-2011 @ 1:25PM
I am not having mana issues.Its just the heals I seem to feel like I am lacking.I have had tanks ask whats up with it.It appears I am healing continuously only the heals just don't seem to be doing anything.
2-15-2011 @ 4:13PM
@Dawn's comment about using penance before shield. Actually, Borrowed Time isn't consumed by instant casts. You get 6 seconds of borrowed time or it goes away at next cast of a non-instant spell. A trick is to get a hud that shows spell lag (I use IceHud). This shows you when you can actually cast a spell (usually .1 or .2 seconds sooner than the interface actually tells you)Generally, I heal a tank with Power Word Shield, Penance (to stack grace) and then IF+Greater Heal (I have a macro that uses IF if off cooldown and Greater heal) then toss another greater heal or two (which then lowers cooldown of IF even more). This is extremely mana efficient at high intellect levels. Borrowed Time will actually cover the Greater HealNow that renew is more useful, you can actually do this (you MUST have spell lag monitored so that you can cast at the earliest time possible)Power Word Shield (borrowed time), penance, renew (if borrowed time is up), and then IF+Greater healsummary: Some instant spells do not consume borrowed time, renew and penance are some of them.If you have a ton of mana and mana regen like me, you can even pull off something like thisPWS > Prayer of Mending, Penance, Renew, IF+Greater heal all under borrowed time
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