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2-18-2011 @ 2:27PM
you can't be serious. druids have bres and shamans have hero and totems, and you want more utility? I smell bias. flame me all you want but the raidwide benefits of those classes certainly outweigh a cooldown that only buffs my next 5 heals
2-18-2011 @ 2:41PM
I dont think you understand what kind of cooldowns he is talking about.Bres is arguable, but I don't see shaman popping a totem that will increase healing on a target when they need itOn another note, I hope they are still considering the soul link ability for shaman. that can be used as a defensive cooldown
2-18-2011 @ 2:43PM
That's much like saying that a druid tank doesn't need defensive cooldowns because they have battle res. Or that a moonkin doesn't need good AoE because they can go to cat and swipe. The utility argument is great, but it sucks when you don't need that utility or you just can't do the job other people can because you've got so many other things going on (most of which are irrelevant). Yes, resto druids have battle res, resto shamans have mana tide. Holy paladins have lay on hands, and priests have brogrip. So what? The important part here is that some healers are better than others at actually doing the role they want to do, and the reason for that is a differential in cooldowns.We saw the same thing with tanks last expansion: if tanks don't have parity in cooldowns then the tank with the best cooldown wins. We're seeing that more and more with healers - we saw it last expansion with stacking of holy paladins because of sac and aura mastery, and we're seeing it again. That being said, please don't change barkskin to be castable on others. Having a personal defensive CD is really nice, but more importantly barkskin on a 1-minute CD is just ridiculously powerful when applied to any arbitrary tank. Don't do it. Give them a new ability.
Good raid encounters contain boss abilities that hit the tank hard enough that CDs will need to be used to save them. In the past only paladins and priests would be healing a tank, while shaman and druids dominated raid healing. now that the effort has been made to equalize all 4 classes in both roles, shaman and druids need a tank saving CD.Your argument is basically the same as saying that pally and druid tanks don't need defensive CDs since they only off-tank. This isn't BC anymore dude, the kids ARE ON YOUR LAWN and they are staying there.
2-18-2011 @ 2:44PM
Clearly Blizzard disagrees with you. Also, you don't need a Shaman for BL/Heroism anymore and totems have just about lost all the value they used to have.
2-18-2011 @ 2:48PM
Mages also have Heroism (Timewarp/Bloodlust). In a 25-man raid, Resto shaman usually only need 1-2 totems, as other classes now bring identical or better buffs. Besides Mana Tide Totem, nothing else is Resto shaman specific.A Druid's Battle Rez is not a defensive CD, and non-Resto Druids bring this to the raid as well. When a fight goes as planned, you shouldn't need to use it at all. This point is invalid as you could just bring boomkin or feral druids if you wanted a Battle Rez and stack Priest/Pally healers because of CDs.The point of this post (and the blue post) is to point out that for guilds doing hard mode encounters, Priest and Pally healers are currently valued above Druid/Shaman healers. This isn't examining class differences, but healing differences between the classes.For most hard mode raid encounters, stacking Priest/Pally healers makes the fights SIGNIFICANTLY easier. 10-man raids only make the difference between healer classes more profound.
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