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2-24-2011 @ 11:12PM
Likely I'll get downvoted for saying this, but I'm disappointed that these achievements are being nerfed so radically in patch 4.1. Removing the rare bloated fish from the requirements changes the character of these achievements completely. As things stand right now, these achievements can be earned only by those with a combination of incredible patience and/or luck. This is precisely what WoW Fishing is all about, patience and luck. These achievements will change from something that only those most dedicated to Fishing will earn to something any casual fisherman/woman can knock out with an hour or so of effort.Yes, I've already completed all of The Limnologist and The Oceanographer except for the Summer Bass. Based on my observations and those I've seen posted at El's Anglin', I think the actual drop rates for Bloated Salmon and Bloated Redgill are probably between about 1/2,000 and 1/5,000. The other rare bloated fish currently required for The Limnologist are likely on the order of 1/1,000. I'd be less disappointed if they had increased the drop rates for Bloated Salmon and Bloated Redgill to be closer to those of the other bloated fish, about 0.1%, but left all the bloated fish as requirements for these achievements. That would at least require some effort and not let people completely cheese it.
2-24-2011 @ 11:19PM
I have to agree, as someone that is slowly working on the bloated fish as well. Some achieves should stay difficult. What they should change is remove the necessary win of the Fishing tournaments from the Salty title, allowing only 104 ppl per year to potentially get the title on a server kind of sucks.
2-25-2011 @ 2:58AM
I'm with you on being a little disappointed. Some things need to be extremely rare but something that a person can do on their own. I felt like I achieved something when I got the Salty title. I have since taken several friends to the Sunday derby to show/help them win. That said I also think epics should come from certain kinds of pools. The turtle mount is something that I have been trying to get since it went live. I stopped counting at 15,000 fish and that was long before cata patch. Real long time before actually. Yet I still am trying since it drops in the Cata zones too. I must admit that fishing has brought me some extremely valuable drops from crates etc. I think the best so far was the tailoring pattern for the purple shirt. Sold it for 5k back when that was an insane amount of gold.I would love to see another Salty type title know that they are nerfing the other two. Damn that turtle!!!!!!!!
2-25-2011 @ 1:01PM
@rajah.^^this is essentially the key complaint for all of WoW. Players that actually tried and succeeded in acquiring/completeing super difficult/challenging tasks then see that months later, they're efforts are rendered meaningless when the nerfs kick in to give all the whiners a chance to have the same achievements with little of the same sweat/tears. Really is a wrong-headed way to go about things.Obviously i would love to have every cool thing in the game; but what's the point in an "everything for everyone" paradigm? We don't cater to layabouts in life, we don't coddle the weak in competitions, why should we do it in WoW?And for those that say something is "too hard"; if one person has achieved something, it's not too hard. It's you that isn't working hard enough.
I have to say, I really don't want them to reduce the difficulty of fishing achievements and I would hate for them to remove requirements for the "Salty" title as frozndevl suggests. I worked long, long, long and hard on most every fishing achievement I've gotten and I always wear my "Salty" title with the utmost pride. It represents the greatest amount of time that I've ever dedicated to a single title.It also makes me nervous when I see people talking about how Blizzard needs to "fix" fishing. From every developer post I've ever read, fishing is functioning exactly as intended. It isn't supposed to be exciting. It's supposed to be fishing. Nat Pagle says it best:"If you ask me, the best part about fishing is its slow pace. It gives one time to think, to reflect on past events and to plan for future ones. Oh, and it's also a great excuse to drink. Heavily."
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