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3-02-2011 @ 11:09AM
Gah! I'm confused. Obviously I've missed some news... Valor points are changing/reverting to Justice points? I need moar info please. Can someone point me in the right direction?
3-02-2011 @ 11:16AM
Basically here's how it's going down. You know how in Wrath there were 4 different types of badges in which each one equated to a tier of gear? Well in Cataclysm that isn't happening anymore. In PvE you're either getting Justice or Valor points and that's it. The NEWEST/FRESHEST tier will always be bought with Valor while EVERYTHING ELSE will be bought with Justice. So three patches from now, assuming every patch is a new tier, you will be using Valor points on those T4 (Cata) items and using Justice on T1 (like now), T2 (like in 4.1), and T3 items. The reason your current Valor points are being converted to Justice points is so that you can't "cheat" and spend them on T3 gear without actually doing that level of work. If they didn't push them down into Justice basically what people would do is just save up a ton of Valor and when the new patch is released spend it all and get top level gear by having done easier content.
3-02-2011 @ 11:20AM
Yes. This was the new plan Blizzard outlined when they announced this new system of points back during the end of Wrath. Previously, we had a new currency that was released every time a new tier of gear was released. The new currency would be used to buy the new level of gear, and the old currencies would still be good for the older gear. That resulted in myriad currencies to keep track of by the time all the tiers were released for any particular expansion.The new system works like this: The most current tier of gear available will always be purchasable with Valor Points, and everything else will be purchasable with Justice Points. This means every time a new tier is released, the current tier drops down to Justice Point level, so the new tier can be the only thing purchased with Valor.For that reason, all your Valor Points also drop down to Justice Points, so you don't immediately have a stash of currency available to buy the brand new tier that was just released. Your Justice Points will now buy everything except the brand new tier - including the tier that just dropped, which was previously only purchasable with Valor Points.I know that's a long answer, but I hope it helps.
3-02-2011 @ 11:21AM
I'd venture to say that the current Valor gear (359 iLvl?) will be pushed down to the Justice vendor, and the 346 justice gear will probably be thrown out. This is just a guess...
3-02-2011 @ 11:26AM
Thanks WaterRouge (red water? O.o). That definitely helps. And makes sense.And I'm happy - I'm fine with not having the cutting edge stuff, as long as I can stay semi-competitive with my few hours played each week.
3-02-2011 @ 11:40AM
Thanks to Sir Broose and Geist too (yay for time delay and for no edit button!)
3-02-2011 @ 12:36PM
so I'll be able to buy tier11 with justice points? omg *O*
3-02-2011 @ 12:52PM
I understand the conversion and why and etc, but what I want to know is will the current Tier of Justice point gear cost LESS justice points once 4.1 hits? I mean if the now current gear will cost JP, will they drop everything else down so it's less expensive? With the cap on the amount of JP you can have, it's not like they can just keep upping the price of outdated tiers. If they don;t change prices, then it'd be kinda of weird for, say, T3 gear to eventually cost the same amount as T2.
3-02-2011 @ 3:30PM
"...but what I want to know is will the current Tier of Justice point gear cost LESS justice points once 4.1 hits?"Almost certainly not. The variations in badges per item during Wrath was entirely a factor of "How many badges can a character earn in a lockout?" If you can beat the content that awards JP already, there's not much point in encouraging you to waste JP on pieces you're going to replace with pieces costing JP. Late Wrath it was cheaper to buy some t9 than t8 or t7 equivalents.And they're unlikely to pull the 346s off the vendors because, aside from the five pieces of tier gear, you'll get different slots each tier. For example, at 346 you get off hands, neck pieces, and belts while at 359 you get boots, cloaks, rings, and relics.
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