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3-06-2011 @ 8:17PM
Wulfkin said...
Nice article, although a little convoluted in true timey-wimey fashion.
Although I have to say I would love it if Nozdormu was not corrupted by anyone, or in league with anyone, or even trying to dishonourably get out of his own death. What if he's just one crazy Aspect of Time trying to do his best in a crazy world/timeline/multiverse/police box?
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3-06-2011 @ 8:23PM
MusedMoose said...
Agreed. While I understand that corruption is a running theme in WoW, I think it would make for a more interesting story if Nozdormu wasn't corrupted. Seeing someone become a villain while trying to do the right thing would be a welcome change. Either way, Nozdormu really does need to make sure that his closest companion's mortal race form is a human woman with red hair. ^_^
Also agreed that this was a good article. Speculation on this kind of stuff is great, can't wait to see how it turns out in-game.
3-06-2011 @ 8:46PM
Sintraedrien said...
Doctor Nozdormwho?
;p
Sintra E'Drien of the Ebon Blade, né Sindorei (I'm tired of fighting, I'm going to pick flowers)
3-06-2011 @ 10:06PM
wmartyd said...
using one of the other Tinfoil Hat Editions.
Lets say Nozdormu is leader of and Uncorrupted Titan Dragonflight and the Infinite Dragonflight is a corrupted version.
Now take the edition that talks about the Titans creating Azeroth to lure Sargeras here and killing him.
Now Nozdormu needs a powerful army here and a tampered well to lure him here, so he alters time sequences to have obstacles placed in the path of the inhabitants of Azeroth, each time he does this he causes us to grow stronger and progress further in out power, his army so to speak.
now on the other hand the Infinite Dragonflight is the Bronze Dragonflight on a Corrupted path, or in this case the path that would happen if the timeline was not shifted by Nozdormu. This would lead to a world of Complacency, Sargeras is here regardless in Medivh, but if he was allowed to continue Sargeras would enter the World of Azeroth unhindered, and he would get the Well of Eternity uncontested.
So in essence Nozdormu is conditioning us to Fight Sargeras when he arrives, but wants to control when he arrives.
Infinite Dragonflight, wither under the influences of the Old Gods or of their own Accord are trying to either make things more normal for the in habitants of Azeroth or trying to keep us week so Sargeras has little issue in winning.
3-06-2011 @ 10:46PM
CDave said...
I agree, I really hope he's not actually evil, just lost somewhere in time fighting/captured/whatever the Infinite Dragonflight. Why do the MALE aspects have to be the evil ones? Can we see Ysera get irreversibly corrupted by the Nightmare? Mix the gender roles up a bit.
Oh and as for the Culling of Stratholme event: if Arthas was stopped the ENTIRE population of the city would've turned into an army for the Scourge, led by Mal'Ganis; Jaina and Uther wouldn't have had a chance. This army of Scourge would've destroyed Lordaeron much quicker, Kel'Thuzad would've come back eventually, the High elves would've been killed, etc. Also, Arthas would've have told Illidan about the Skull of Gul'dan, leaving another, even more powerful dreadlord, Tichondrias, to march upon Hyjal. Even if the Legion was some defeated at the mountain, we would still have a Legion controlled Lich King who probably wouldn't keep the Scourge from swarming across all of Azeroth (as mentioned in the Fall of the Lich King video with Bolvar). So no offense Anne, but I don't think we would've ended up with the sunshine and rainbows situation you came up with.
PS- can you tell I recently played through WC3 again? :P and I know despite my rational and hope Nozdormu will still probably end up being a raid boss, but I can still try to justify the CoT instances as being good intentioned dammit! :)
3-07-2011 @ 1:13AM
squig_masta said...
@CDave
If you think about it, it's even worse then that. Imagine if all the events of WoW3 happened, without Arthas.
Whose to say that Sylvanas would have been raised as a banshee as oppose to a ghoul or skeleton or some other lesser undead that couldn't break free with the breaking of the frozen throne? Without their iconic leader, the Forsaken might be a very different, if it even exists.
For that matter, whose to say that when the throne broke the lich king would recover, and the scourge never became a big enough threat to warrent another full scale assault on Northrend? It wasn't till after the scourge assault on Ogrimar and Stormwind that we went off to war. I'm sure eventually the Kirin Tor would go to fight Malygos, but it wouldn't have as much hoard/alliance support, which means that Yogg-Saron would have more time to corrupt the Watchers and the rest of Northrend, Magni would still be king of the Frost Dwarves and a whole boat load of things could have gone undealt with from the Kvaldir to the Drakkari.
3-07-2011 @ 4:20AM
Sorcha said...
@CDave: it's interesting you say that because I've noticed a certain powerful female aspect who is very very quick to decide her brothers need to die nowadays...
For good reasons of course. But it's interesting.
3-07-2011 @ 5:08AM
Zenith said...
I have to agree with CDave and squig here, the future the infinite flight wanted is very different. If you look at the point they decided to interfere already had arthas well on the way to being corrupted - at that point there were only dead villagers and undead left in stratholme. If he was killed there it would only mean the lich king would have no more planned champion, assuming this was planned from when he basically sent kel'thuzad on a suicide mission.
Jaina would still likely have gone to kalimdor along with the orcs who were already there. One possible change is that illidan would not have consumed the skull of gul'dan. This means that two more dreadlords would have been alive but I don't think they would have participated in the battle of mount hyjal since the others stayed in northrend/eastern kingdoms to keep an eye on the lich king.
This would have meant the legion would have had a much stronger presence in eastern kingdoms (no banshee fighting dreadlords), but would still fail at hyjal, effectively forming a stalemate, at least until they figure out they have the sunwell on their side of the world
3-07-2011 @ 9:43AM
ScorchHellfire said...
One thing Anne forgot is that if the Horde hadn't invaded Azeroth then the original Alliance would not have formed either. IMO we will be the ones to kill Nozdormu as a future raid boss and all of the Infinite Dragonflight's meddling has been for the purpose of sabotaging the strength of the two factions. If Thrall had not been freed, then no new Horde and the Legion would have destroyed Azeroth, if the orcs had not been brought over in the first place the human nations would still be a loose collection of nations that fight eachother over land and power and the high elves would still be reclusive and uncaring for their troubles and the dwarves and gnomes would still be contently sitting on the sidelines going about their own business... and later on there would be no nelfs joining them if there was no Scourge and Burning Legion to defeat in the third war and if Arthas had not become the Lich King that's just one less reason for the factions to band together and become stronger (strong enough to challenge him eventually).
As for the WotA there would be no Horde or Alliance if they were successful then... the Legion would have come and destroyed Azeroth and there would be no planet for the orcs to invade or the draenei to run to... and they may even try to prevent Deathwing's corruption so that we don't have to face him down and be the stronger for that as well.
I mean if Nozdormu has seen his own death, then I am sure he has also seen our future victories over all these foes and thus there is no real reason for him to try to prevent them from happening if they are defeated anyway. The only reason to intervene is to change events to suit his own goals and when we saw him at the Bronze Shrine we were seeing the real leader of the Infinites... He may be influenced by the old gods or he may be doing it on his own, but either way this is all about making the factions not exist as they do when they kill him.