15 Minutes of Fame: WoW goes to English class

Remember when we interviewed the two teachers who were injecting motivation, teamwork, and pride into at-risk students via an after-school World of Warcraft program? Educators Lucas Gillispie and Peggy Sheehy are still at it -- and this time, they've scooted the gaming back squarely into school hours with an elective language arts enrichment class for 15 middle school students.
"Our kids are embarking on a Hero's Journey as they compare their own experiences in World of Warcraft to those of Bilbo Baggins in Tolkien's The Hobbit," explains Gillispie. "They're engaging in creative projects as well, such as live tweeting the events leading to Cataclysm from NPC's points-of-view (see #wowinschool hashtag). They're creating digital propaganda posters related to in-world events, writing riddles to share with players on their server, and learning leadership through their student guild."
Sounds great in theory -- but we wondered what the kids themselves thought about the program. So we asked three of them, all new to the World of Warcraft, what they think about the game itself, what they feel they're getting out of the class, and whether or not the experience has given them any new perspectives on gaming.
Meghan Age 14, 8th grade, draenei hunterSammy Age 14, 8th grade, night elf druid
Maddux Age 13, 8th grade, gnome rogue
15 Minutes of Fame: Did you play World of Warcraft before you got into this class? Tell us about your WoW and gaming background.
Meghan: No, I had never played WoW before. I usually play games like Call of Duty on Xbox Live.
Sammy: I've never played WoW outside of class. I had heard of WoW before but I just thought it was some child game like Pokemon. I'd never thought it would be as cool as this. I don't play lots of games outside of school. I have a Wii and PlayStation but I just don't get into games as much as other people. I spend most of my time playing sports and doing hands on things, but I think this game has helped me broaden my horizons. I do enjoy a good video game once in a while like Mario Brothers. I don't understand war games like Halo. They're too complex, but there's something about WoW that's different and makes me want to play.
Maddux: I never played the WoW game before this class. I have, however, been playing video games, starting with my GameBoy Advance since I was five.
How much does your character for this class participate in non-class activities? Do you maintain a special "class-only" character, or do you use a character you've played before and/or play your character outside of class needs?
Meghan: My character is never solo. I will always get together with classmates and help them.
Sammy: I don't play WoW outside of the WoW in School Project. I don't have an account. If I did, we're still not allowed to work with our character outside because some people would get ahead of others. I think that's fair.
Maddux: I don't play this character outside of school. It is a classroom-only character. I did used to play an undead hunter outside of school, but I had to cancel it.
Tell me a little bit about the class activity that's been your favorite so far.
Meghan: I think my favorite activity is when we go and participate in dungeons.
Sammy: Basically, I like playing. I mean, my favorite organized event was when the gnomes were taking back Gnomeregan and we gathered a bunch of gnomes and stampeded Ironforge. That was really cool, but what I love most is quests and finding a guildmate and randomly storming a Murloc camp together. Stuff like that, the unplanned things out of game. I liked watching BlizzCon. Drinking sodas and watching geeks go crazy about WoW is very enjoyable to me.
Maddux: My favorite activity so far has been the guild initiation. I enjoyed hearing the speeches and watching fellow classmates be initiated.
How much WoW do you typically play for this class? What about outside of what's needed for class?
Meghan: I only play WoW in school, and that is usually two days of the week.
Sammy: Well, I think I play more WoW in a week than most of the kids because I have a wacky schedule and I got to be Mr. Lawson's teacher assistant. If I don't have anything to do, I just play WoW. So, I estimate more than an hour but less than four hours a week, and that suits me just fine 'cause I'm not big on video games. I don't play WoW outside of school 'cause I don't have an account.
Maddux: In a week, I would say about 3-5 hours. I don't play outside of school because I don't have it at home any more.

Meghan: I think it is a little bit harder because we have to work for our answers instead of someone just telling us.
Sammy: The writing part of the class is difficult because Mr. Lawson is so strict about our grammar, but as we get further into the year I think it becomes easier because we're learning. But, I do think I'm learning more here because it's fun and I want to pay attention. In a typical classroom you sit there and watch the teacher write on a board and talk about conjunctions and linking verbs. That's boring. Nobody wants to do that. With this, I do my work properly because I know I get playing time when I'm done. That's what I work for. In other classes you might, just might, get praised, but that's all.
Maddux: I would say that I am doing about the same, maybe a bit better. In some places, it is more difficult than a regular class but is still more fun.
Had you participated in the after-school program before taking this class?
Meghan: No, I had not.
Sammy: No. I didn't know it existed until it was started.
Maddux: I did not participate in the after-school program.
Has this class inspired any interest in pursing a gaming-related career?
Meghan: I wanted to be a game tester before I got into this class.
Sammy: No. I'm still set on going into the science field but I think it's made me more open to video games.
Maddux: Yes, it has. I am still looking at being a veterinarian, and if that doesn't work, I will pursue a game-related career.

Meghan: No. They just said, "OK."
Sammy: No. I told my Mom I wanted to try it and if I didn't like it I would change classes. She said OK and let me try it.
Maddux: No, they found it interesting. The idea was original.
What do your parents think about the class experience?
Meghan: They think it is fun and it actually helps me.
Sammy: I don't really know. They just sort of let me do my thing, but I know my sister is really jealous that I'm in the class. She had been a fan of WoW before she moved to N.C. and I know she really wanted to take the class after she heard there was a class.
Maddux: I believe they think it is interesting how the idea wraps around education.
Learn more about how educators are using the World of Warcraft to explore writing and literacy, mathematics, digital citizenship, and online safety at the WoW in School Project.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
jrockzmyv382 Mar 17th 2011 3:09PM
All three of them are Alliance... should have seen that one coming. Glad Maddux had an Undead Hunter at one point, though. Kudos to him.
FTH. /highfive Thrall
epicboyz Mar 17th 2011 3:20PM
i think your missing the point, jr.
jealouspirate Mar 17th 2011 3:23PM
I would imagine that they're all in the same guild, so yes, they are all the same faction. It's also totally irrelevant. Also, Thrall isn't your leader anymore.
On topic, sounds interesting, but I'm not really convinced that this kind of thing belongs in the standard classroom yet. I'm all for using games for education, but WoW isn't really built for that purpose. I suppose I'd want to have a look again once everything is finished and see what the kids have learned compared to what they would have learned in a "standard" English class.
I do think that there are a lot of problems with our education system though, and kudos to these people for at least trying to innovate. Even if it isn't as successful as hoped it is still important to experiment like this.
MrJackSauce Mar 17th 2011 3:23PM
I sense a great disturbance in the brain, as if one billion synapses all cried ou-
...too much?
jrockzmyv382 Mar 17th 2011 3:27PM
Sorry, Thrall will always be above Hellscream in my eyes... but that's neither here nor there. Enjoy the down-ranking party.
flawless Mar 17th 2011 3:29PM
I don't think he is the only one.
MrJackSauce Mar 17th 2011 3:22PM
Wow that is amazingly cool. I especially liked how Sammy said "...I do my work properly because I know I get playing time when I'm done. That's what I work for. In other classes you might, just might, get praised, but that's all."
That stuck with me because it's very true. Time and again you get kids that do what they are told but aren't told after that they did well or even that they were appreciated. Children (and Adults, lets be honest) thoroughly enjoy receiving praise, and the more you give the more they will work at gaining the adulation they feel they deserve.
SO many children these days don't even know that they are capable of learning. That's the first thing they should be taught: That you are capable of learning anything you set your mind to.
Learn how to learn; so you can learn. I'm glad that there are some places out there that are setting a great example for this.
Boobah Mar 17th 2011 4:55PM
"Children (and Adults, lets be honest) thoroughly enjoy receiving praise, and the more you give the more they will work at gaining the adulation they feel they deserve."
It doesn't really matter how much you praise Alice's incredible feats of strength if you just got done being equally effusive in praise of Bob's ability to not soil his own pants. If the praise comes too easily, too often, you've debased it and it becomes meaningless.
Worse, if you've convinced someone they deserve praise for just showing up, they're going to be annoyed if that praise isn't forthcoming.
MrJackSauce Mar 17th 2011 8:05PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Like anything in our lives: too much of a good thing is still bad; whether it be chocolate, flour snorting, or praise.
But I do believe that there isn't enough praise going around.
Trilynne Mar 17th 2011 8:12PM
There's praise, and then they're empty gushing over any little thing the kid does. If someone did something right, I don't think there's anything wrong in telling them that. It doesn't have to be a big production, just "Good job, that's exactly right." Or if they're just starting to get it, be honest about that too, "You're making progress, just keep working on X." You're right, if you gush with flowery praise equally over anything a person does, it's meaningless. But being honest about someone's achievements let's them know that yes, they did it right. Being honest means that you can also tell them where to improve.
tl;dr: honesty is the best policy when it comes to praise.
jrockzmyv382 Mar 17th 2011 3:25PM
No... I absolutely got the point, junior. I read the article. I'm just screwing around. Lighten up man. It's all in good fun.
sirwilliamdc Mar 17th 2011 3:42PM
The reason epicboyz referred to you as "jr" is because thats the first two letters of your name, it wasn't meant as an insult. Contrary to your retort that is obviously a misinformed insult to supposedly call him "junior" in turn.
Duts Mar 17th 2011 4:37PM
It's so fun to sit at the airport and watch things go over Junior's head!
jrockzmyv382 Mar 17th 2011 4:44PM
If that was indeed the case (and it probably was) it was simply a matter of miscommunication and I apologize for that.
Saeadame Mar 17th 2011 7:35PM
Random, http://community.livejournal.com/aramatheydidnt/1984883.html?
Grovinofdarkhour Mar 17th 2011 3:28PM
"Drinking sodas and watching geeks go crazy about WoW is very enjoyable to me."
That's why I read The Queue, buddy!
exogenesis. Mar 17th 2011 3:43PM
This sounds really quite interesting. Perhaps it can work towards ridding us of the stereotype that WoW - like other games - just rot the brain.
Or maybe that's just my family that insist that is fact.
Gozzix Goldgear Mar 17th 2011 4:20PM
Oh no, it is definitely not just your family, the stereotype is near everywhere.
Boobah Mar 17th 2011 4:59PM
Hey, the rest of the entertainment industry still thinks of games in terms of Pac Man Fever and Ultra Super Death Gore Fest Chainsawer 3000. No wonder the folks who aren't gaming think those who are are victims of brain rot.
vwgreen77 Mar 17th 2011 3:51PM
I thought these were 'at-risk' kids.