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3-17-2011 @ 7:20PM
I'm a bit less enthusiastic. When I'm in full-play mode (not "too much to do in RL" mode like I'm in now), I'll typically run a daily heroic unless there's a raid or something else going on. Doing a heroic and then a full raid... It's really too much play time for me on a single night.I also rarely (if ever) do chain dungeons, preferring to do a dungeon on my main (healer) and my alt (tank/dps) rather than do the same playstyle twice. It helps keep the game fresh. As a result, I'll typically only run 5 or 6 heroics a week on any character. If this is a full switch (no daily points, only weekly points), I've gone from 5 rewards to none unless I bracket out additional time for dungeon crawls on non-raid nights. If this is a bonus (i.e., you get one reward per day, but if you do seven per week, you're bumped up to a net total of seven rewards), that's fantastic. I just hope they don't penalize one play schedule to accomodate a different play schedule.
3-17-2011 @ 7:27PM
Wait...how does this penalize one?It looks like people who do 1 a day will still get the same rewards they get now...and the people who do 7 in one day will get the rewards they would get if they did 1 per day.Seems win/win to me...
3-17-2011 @ 7:31PM
From the text description, this is a pure win-win for you, provided you do do those 5-6 dungeons a week. If you do one extra dungeon on a char one evening, you'll get the rewards one more time than you'd do now.
3-17-2011 @ 7:32PM
I'm not sure I understand your concern - by my reading of this, you will still be getting the same valor point rewards every time you complete a dungeon, but you'll get valor points the first seven heroics you complete in a week, rather than the first one in a day. It does not penalize any playstyle - if you do one heroic a day, you'll still find yourself doing seven a week and the rewards will be unchanged. But if you play in bursts, you can say do three on Wednesday and four on Sunday and get the same rewards as the daily player.
3-17-2011 @ 7:36PM
I don't think you quite understand what is being said here. So I'll break it down.7 days in a week, right now each day you can get credit for 1 heroic per day. So 7 per week total.Soon you'll be able to get credit for those 7 per week, but at any pace you want. 3 on Wednesday and 4 on Saturday. It doesn't change anything really other than make life more convenient .
3-17-2011 @ 8:30PM
Wow. First of all this is awesome. I am not a big fan of DF but I am if this makes it live. As far as being critical of it. This totally caters to ALL playstyles. You can run your one random per day or all 7. You get the same rewards no matter which way you do it. Unless I am really bad at the math (which I have known to be). I am so looking forward to this change. This plus only needing 3/5 for guild runs as a win for the smaller guilds. If you want to rip on them for that, go right ahead. Don't mind me while I smile through it though :p
3-17-2011 @ 9:08PM
"It looks like people who do 1 a day will still get the same rewards they get now...and the people who do 7 in one day will get the rewards they would get if they did 1 per day."If that is true, then, as I said, it's fantastic. However, the wording is ambiguous. You seem to interpret it as "The first seven random dungeons of this tier that you complete each week will **each** earn you", though that starred "each" is not actually present. I read it as potentially cumulative; that is, after completing seven heroics, you get points equivalent to seven day's worth of daily heroics as a sort of bulk reward (much like getting six swine bellies for the cooking daily will get you two cooking tokens but three won't get you a single one). As we don't know what rewards the text blurb will coincide with, we can't tell whether this is a single day's reward (implying that the starred each is implied) or a week's reward (implying that the starred each is not present). That's why the article contains "seems to suggest" and "might hint": at this point, we don't know the mechanic. I outlined the two possibilities (a 7 times bigger reward after completing 7 dungeons versus a reward after each of the first 7 dungeons) and stated that I disliked the former.To answer the rest of the replies: I already stated that I don't enjoy chain heroics (doing 3 in one day strikes me as a long time to watch strangers' health bars going up and down), nor do I typically do 7 heroics per week.
3-17-2011 @ 9:48PM
Then this doesn't effect you at all. You don't HAVE to run multiple heroics in a day to get VP. You don't have to do anything different at all. If you only run 5-6 heroics in a week, you get 350-420VP same as always.I fail to understand what the problem you'd have is.
3-17-2011 @ 10:55PM
I admit that it's possible to read this that way, but I guarantee that it will not be "a 7 times bigger reward after completing 7 dungeons". As it stands right now a 10-man raider who clears all raid bosses every week needs to run 5 daily heroics to hit the valor cap and a 25-man raider doing the same thing needs to run 2 daily heroics. The new system as you've outlined it would essentially force everyone to do 7 heroics per week in order to hit the cap, which would break the major incentive to doing 25-mans, that you don't have to do as many heroics to hit the valor cap.
3-18-2011 @ 1:26AM
I suppose you CAN read it that way, but it's a significantly less likely interpretation. If that was what they meant, they would have been more likely to say "Completing seven random dungeons" rather than "the first seven random dungeons that you complete".
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