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3-17-2011 @ 1:26PM
A tank in i329 gear would have over 100k hp anyway, surely?!?Anyone contemplating tanking a PuG with less than 130k should be marking trash for CC and using all their CDs wisely.From what I've seen the past few weeks it's returning to the old WOTLK AoE fest in heroics and it's not pleasant to heal. When you suggest marking even a skull, let alone mobs to CC it's like a tank has had their ego dented.
3-17-2011 @ 1:36PM
Gig, I'm starting to see this mentality come back as well, and it's bothersome (let alone stressful) to heal a tank who doesnt want to CC.
3-17-2011 @ 1:55PM
@Geiss I couldn't agree more. While my druid isn't at all the epitome of BiS gear-wise, I have over 100k health and mana self-buffed, yet I have ran several instances where tanks have flat out refused to allow CC (as soon as a mob is CC'd, they purposefully throw out AoE damage and pop it). I'd like to add the suggestion to ENCHANT AND GEM YOUR GEAR! Most of the best enchants are dirt cheap (easily covered by doing 30 mins worth of dailies), and there's no reason to not have the Therazane enchant if you're running heroics. My druid had just about every enchant on his quest reward healing set before stepping foot into normal dungeons.I recently had a warrior touch on all of these pet peeves in TotT (while tanking in ungemmed or DPS gemmed, unenchanted, mostly PvP gear), and it drove me NUTS. When he decided to pull the 5-packs of trash and broke several CC's, I ended up running out of mana and then we all died.
3-17-2011 @ 2:03PM
What the healer says: "Hey, can we please have the mage sheep the healer? It would make the encounter go much smoother?"What the tank hears: "Yo, stupid, you can't do your job and your momma is ugly."How can we get the idea across that CC'ing is viable, preferable, and it keeps the stress levels down and lets the healer conserve mana and keep everyone alive?
3-17-2011 @ 2:37PM
The worst offenders are tanks who refuse to allow CC or break it indiscriminately. My brother falls into this category. He loathes CC, which I just don't understand. Sure, maybe we could kill the whole group without it, but I'd rather our healer didn't have a heart attack while doing it.
3-17-2011 @ 4:15PM
I'm geared enough at this point that, I'm ashamed to say, my biggest problem with folks doing this is realizing that I actually have the mana regen to use my fast and/or big heals far more often than I do; a fully controlled trash pull, with only one mob up at a time almost never requires more than Earth Shield, Riptide, and Healing Wave. And the only time those pulls drop me below 90% mana is when my trinket procs and adds another 20k mana to my maximum.It makes the trash packs the interesting part of the instance, rather than the boss dances.Not, mind you, that I do any encouraging of the AoE fest, aside from trying to heal through it. I'll hex and bind anything I can, and I love seeing marks go up on stuff. I'm there to help others gain loot in exchange for my VP, and it's faster to CC than wipe.
3-18-2011 @ 9:31AM
DK Tank here. I use and abuse the hell out of puglax and quickmark, and more often than not I get flak from my healer or one of the dps'ers : "do we HAVE to CC? Itz a waste of time"Get enough of those and it almost makes me want to abandon the auto-marking auto-cc assignments. Almost. I still use crowd control even with my ilvl at 356 and damn near 200k hp. Why? Because it makes things smoother. Especially when theres a frigglefragglin healer mob.
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