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Gold Capped: Milling and prospecting changes ahead?

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The recent UI developer Q&A contained a little nugget that I found interesting:

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Milling and Prospecting are incredibly dull and very manual tasks at present, especially when you do them in bulk. Speaking as a scribe, the entire manufacturing process from herb to pigment to ink to glyph is both time-consuming, boring and sending me well on my way to repetitive stress wrist and index finger injuries.

Yes, we totally understand why this is a problem. The reason we can't make it work just like other trade skills, is that we don't know which herbs and ore you want to use. If you have some cheap ore and some very expensive ore, we don't want to accidentally use the expensive ore. There are a few ways to fix this. One is we just redesign Milling and Prospecting. If they were recipe-based, then we would know exactly which material to use. It would also add a huge list of repetitive recipes to your Professions pages. We could also make some kind of new UI (think of something simple, like the Reforging UI) to let you drag and drop the materials you want to use. The advantage of the "box" solution is we could also use it for Disenchanting.


I was thrilled to hear Blizzard's considering changing the way this works. I had always just assumed that the clunky design of milling and prospecting was on purpose to put a limit on how much ore or herbs one player could process.

Semi-permeable membrane

Right now, the three professions that require some intermediate, time-consuming step between raw materials and finished goods are jewelcrafting and inscription, and to a lesser extent, enchanting. You can't just create glyphs or cut gems out of raw farmed materials. You can create leatherworking goods out of raw farmed leather, though.

So what's the difference? Why don't leatherworkers have to spend hours ... I don't know ... "flaying" leather in order to use the profession to make finished goods? I always assumed that having a "dull and manual" process between raw mats and finished goods was put there deliberately to protect crafting profitability.

Cutting gems and making glyphs right now have two significant barriers to finished goods going up for sale on the AH: New scribes and jewelcrafters have to invest a lot of time in recipe acquisition, and everyone has to mill and prospect. The amount they have to do is directly proportional to the market share they have, so anyone who wants a larger share of the market is going to have to make some sacrifices to do it.

Completely AFK

If Blizzard removes milling and prospecting's manual and dull nature by giving us Prospect All or Mill All buttons, it'll in effect be allowing us to produce the same goods in less real time. I don't count smelting against my gold per hour, because I fill up my bags, click Smelt All, and come back after dinner and emails. I do consider the time spent prospecting 600 stacks of ore when I calculate gold earned per hour, though. It's time I can't be doing other activities, and it's so repetitive that I can't make myself enjoy it without a lobotomy (not unlike fishing).

A change like this would reduce the tradeoff between repetitive and monotonous work and finished goods (or rewards). This would change how the markets are split up, as anyone would be able to spam out goods onto the AH without paying too much attention to avoid running out of stock. This would spread the current margins being made among more crafters, as well as reduce prices across the board.

How could it work?

The devs' answer highlights some of the technical issues behind the UI as it stands now. Milling and prospecting could easily be made repeatable by having a special segment of the trade skill window where you could mill or prospect items the way you can currently craft items. The materials would be specific ore or herbs, and the only downside would be that you'd have to have one skill for each type of raw material. Still, this segment could be made to default to filter out skills you don't have the mats in your bags for.

Much more interesting would be some new code that would allow for a more sensible interface that could also be made to work for disenchanting, as well as maybe allow queuing of more than one type of raw material for processing.

One way it could work would be to have a separate box that would show you the processable items in your bags (and bank? please?) with a big Process All button that would mill, prospect, and disenchant everything on the list. You could also drill down and individually process items, or create a queue of items to process in a batch. For disenchanting, you'd probably want to have it automatically filter out soulbound items, as well as group items in your bag by either ilevel or rarity. While it was going, it would show you how much time was left.

Add in a persistent (and obviously configurable) permanent ignore list, and you've surpassed the level of functionality that you can find in the AutoDE function of Auctioneer!

Onward and upward

I am really glad that the UI Q&A was posted. It's comforting to know that someone's paying attention to the non-"core" parts of the game that entertain us auctioneers. Now, if Blizzard would just make the in-game AH as good as the mobile one and implement persistent want to buys, I'd be one happy AH junkie.

Maximize your profits with more advice from Gold Capped as well as the author's Call to Auction podcast. Do you have questions about selling, reselling and building your financial empire on the auction house? Basil is taking your questions at basil@wowinsider.com.

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