The OverAchiever: Mountain o' Mounts in Outland

If you're catching up with us after last week, we've finished off both The Ambassador and the first leg of Mountain o' Mounts. I have to confess that I approached both achievements from the perspective of a player who wasn't necessarily at the level cap (I've been leveling a goblin priest lately and greatly enjoying the benefits of faction tabards in dungeons), and I completely forgot that the Argent Tournament even existed. Whoops. (Either that, or I've got one hell of a mental block concerning jousting.)
This week, we're going to hit the dark portal in pursuit of more mount and reputation achievements. Outland is the single most fruitful continent for getting lots of mounts from a limited set of factions. If you've got the patience to make it to exalted with the three factions that sell transport around this shattered hellhole, you'll have an additional 19 mounts at your disposal. You can bump this up to 21 if you count the two PvP talbuks available from Halaa, but these days you'll probably have to arrange a battle royale in the zone in order to get the kills (and tokens) needed. More on this in a bit.
Otherwise, your three targets here are the Netherwing, the Sha'tari Skyguard, and the Kurenai/Mag'har. But first, a brief history lesson for all those of you who joined the game in Wrath of the Lich King and still need to work on your Outland reps ...

The problem with Outland -- if you can call it a problem, rather than a reflection of the game's realities during The Burning Crusade -- is that you're not afforded too many conveniences on the long trek to exalted with anyone. Outland tabards are awarded at exalted rather than being an early bonus to reputation gains, and most factions are also associated with particular dungeons/heroics. While it's possible to do a lot of the rep grind outside of a faction's associated heroics, most of the revered to exalted leg has to be done in the dungeons.
As an example, someone working on Honor Hold/Thrallmar rep back in the day usually lit up the local channels on an endless hunt for heroic Ramparts, Blood Furnace, or (ye gods) Shattered Halls runs. This had the unfortunate effect of making some reputations easier to grind than others. Most players were willing to do the easier heroics like Mechanar -- a relatively quick 5-man for its time -- but heroics like Shattered Halls, Mana Tombs, and Shadow Labyrinth were a much harder sell. For most folks, reputation with the Sha'tar (associated with the Mechanar and other Tempest Keep heroics) was all but guaranteed with access to an easy series of Mech runs, but Consortium rep was another matter entirely. Of WoW's three expansions so far, heroics were probably at their most difficult in BC, and tanks who were usually around 10,000-12,000 HP stepping into heroics didn't like messing around in PuGs with, say, the Cabal Shadow Priest's 2,500-DPS Mind Flay or the Nexus Stalker's Gouge.
If you're going to combine the Outland reputation and mount grinds, be advised that none of the three factions offering mounts have a dungeon associated with them. For the others, this is what you're looking at if your toon can solo a BC-era heroic. Even if your toon's well-geared, keep in mind that overconfident pulling can still land you in hot water, and the vast array of mobs that stun (dropping your avoidance to a flat zero for the stun's duration) is your biggest problem. A full guide to grinding rep for each of them is beyond the scope of this particular article, but I've provided some relevant Wowpedia links and a quick gloss:
- Honor Hold/Thrallmar Quest in Hellfire Peninsula, then grind your brains out in heroic Hellfire Ramparts, the Blood Furnace, and normal or heroic Shattered Halls.
- Cenarion Expedition There are short quest chains toward the end of Hellfire Peninsula and a few in Terokkar, but the majority of quested rep for the Cenarion Expedition will come from Zangarmarsh. Afterwards, hit heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and normal or heroic Steamvaults.
- The Consortium Ouch. Consortium rep is a dog's breakfast of random quests scattered throughout Blade's Edge, Netherstorm, and Terokkar, some turn-ins, and heroic Mana Tombs.
- Keepers of Time There's a short quest chain to get "attuned" to both BC-era CoT instances, but after that it's all Escape from Durnholde and Black Morass runs.
- Lower City Questing in Terokkar and turn-ins up until honored. Afterwards, plan on spending time in heroic Auchenai Crypts and Sethekk Halls, and normal or heroic Shadow Labyrinth.
- Sporeggar Strictly speaking, you can grind Sporeggar rep all the way to exalted with a repeatable quest after you finish the introductory series, but the Sanguine Hibiscus found in the Underbog will also be a big help.
- Shattered Sun Offensive Daily quests in and around the Isle of Quel'danas and Magisters' Terrace.

The Kurenai of Nagrand are a tribe of Broken friendly to the Alliance; The Mag'har (also of Nagrand) are the last uncorrupted tribe of orcs friendly to the Horde. Both have tamed the talbuks native to the area and will offer them to adventurers at exalted.
Talbuk mounts were among the most beloved additions to The Burning Crusade, and just about everyone did the grind back in the day. To me, they always felt like Blizzard's take on the red elk of Princess Mononoke, and even today they're really pretty mounts with lovely animations (although I think they share the ram mount's skeleton). Kind of makes you sad that so many people skip straight to flyers these days.
You'll find introductory quests for Kurenai at Orebor Harborage in Zangarmarsh; the equivalent for Horde is at the small Mag'har outpost in the northern portion of Hellfire Peninsula. Otherwise, questing from the Telaar (Kurenai) or Garadar (Mag'har) hubs in Nagrand should get you up to at least honored, and afterwards you've got yourself a lot of ogre-killin' to do. In the end, they'll cough up access to the following mounts:
- Cobalt Riding Talbuk and Cobalt War Talbuk
- Silver Riding Talbuk and Silver War Talbuk
- Tan Riding Talbuk and Tan War Talbuk
- White Riding Talbuk and White War Talbuk. The latter is interesting in that it has a very distinctive purplish hoof and horn color unique among the talbuk models.
The other need for the talbuks is 20 Halaa Research Tokens, and those are available with turn-ins of Oshu'gun Crystal Powder, which are random drops off mobs in Nagrand. Save any you get while you're grinding ogres for the Kurenai/Mag'har talbuks.

The Sha'tari Skyguard are a contingent of the Sha'tar fighting force largely concerned with aerial threats from Blade's Edge demons and Terokkar arrakoa. At exalted, they'll offer you an array of nether rays (termed by less-affectionate players the "flying sperm"), on which it's terrific fun to perch a character the size of a tauren or draenei due to the sheer improbability of ... well, everything.
You'll get started on your Skyguard odyssey with Yuula, located next to the Shattrath City flight master. They'll run you through a short and easy introductory quest chain, and then it's dailies, dailies, and more dailies in both the Skettis and Ogri'la locations until you hit exalted. You'll have access to the following at that point:
- Blue Riding Nether Ray
- Green Riding Nether Ray
- Purple Riding Nether Ray
- Red Riding Nether Ray
- Silver Riding Nether Ray

The Netherwing are definitely one of WoW's more interesting factions, and there's a fabulous story behind their existence that actually touches on one of Cataclysm's story threads. They were Blizzard's first experiment with an immersive, quest-based reputation grind, and it's easy to see the seeds of where the developers went with that in Wrath.
You'll get your start with Kindness, a quest offered by what appears to be a blood elf named Mordenai in the southeastern portion of Shadowmoon Valley. The end of the quest chain will get you to neutral with the Netherwing and then send you to Netherwing Ledge, where you'll be tasked with taking the Dragonmaw orc empire down from within to free enslaved nether drakes. As with the Skyguard, this will ultimately involve the hell of a lot of dailies, but you'll get a great lore moment (and even a series of air races, itself the subject of an achievement) toward the end.
- Azure Netherwing Drake
- Cobalt Netherwing Drake
- Onyx Netherwing Drake
- Purple Netherwing Drake
- Veridian Netherwing Drake
- Violet Netherwing Drake
Also read: Combining The Ambassador and Mountain O' Mounts
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Jeff Mar 31st 2011 7:09PM
Man, don't put the Armored Nether Drake right on the front of the article!
What a tease! Gorgeous mount and unobtainable...
Chokaa Apr 1st 2011 5:31AM
At least its captain skyshatter, not a player on it!
Boadacious Mar 31st 2011 7:12PM
You seem to of missed out a major part of the skyguard grind - there is a far quicker way to complete the rep, which means it can be ground out over a long afternoon rather than over weeks of dailies.
A quest in skettis allows the player to collect dust, which can be handed in for an elixir to see hidden mobs in skettis. These mobs can then be killed for time-lost scrolls. the scrolls are used to kill 4 mini-bosses (again in skettis) that spawn at piles of skulls in green runes. These bosses each dro a uniwue item, which can be used on the pile of rocks on the island in the centre of skettis lake, that summons terrokar, who can be killed for 400ish rep.
All steps of this procedure compose of quests when you first complete them, given from npcs at the skyguard base in skettis. Then the items can be handed in repeatedly for further rep and to allow you to recomplete the steps.
A guide to this can be found on any of the usual sites.
hicks Mar 31st 2011 7:24PM
That's a quality tip, I didn't learn about that particular shortcut until I was at 19000/21000.
But I did get to Exalted that day.
jonas Mar 31st 2011 7:28PM
Similarly, but not really as complex, for the Netherwing guys, once you're unlocked the dailies, you'll want to keep your eyes open for eggs on the ground. These can be turned in for a nice little batch of rep. It used to be that you'd be lucky to find one or two; but now that the area's pretty empty there's a LOT of eggs. If you're really, really, really dedicated you could probably grind this out in one day; but even if you spread it out you should be able to get 10+ eggs every time you do your set of dailies.
Invader Zog Mar 31st 2011 7:54PM
It takes a fair # of hours, but the quests Boadacious described are fairly easy to do. As a moonkin, it involved a lot of Starfall and Moonfire spam. Added bonus -- you might end up getting an item that allows you to transform your appearance to a Skettis. I was actually trying to get that item and then ended up exalted by accident. I ended up with a collection of extra mounts but quit before getting the item LOL...
Firecrow Mar 31st 2011 7:12PM
You should probably mention out of the dungeon reps, the cenarion expedition has a mount for sale at exalted. As well as an achievement for purchase.
Sean Mar 31st 2011 10:43PM
Two other things to remember about the Cenarion Expedition:
1) Mobs around Zangarmarsh have a chance to drop [Unidentified Plant Parts] http://www.wowhead.com/item=24401 which you can turn in for rep until you are Honored with the faction. Back in the day, we would grind up as many as possible before turning any quests in.
2) D.E.H.T.A. in the Borean Tundra also will award CE rep when you turn in quests. http://www.wowwiki.com/Druids_for_the_Ethical_and_Humane_Treatment_of_Animals
Angus Apr 1st 2011 12:58AM
There are a few quests in WPL for CE rep (only about 250, but I think there may be more in EPL)
Noyou Apr 1st 2011 6:56AM
True enough but if you are going for 100 mounts you probably don't want to waste your time grinding rep on a faction that gives you one mount. Especially when you can buy mounts in Dalaran and farm mounts for honor. I would even hit the mounts that drop from CoS/UP before I started grinding single mount factions.
Quezat Mar 31st 2011 7:16PM
last time i checked there was the cenarion hippogryph too... of course i got mine a long time ago so maybe its not available anymore
onetrueping Mar 31st 2011 7:16PM
What about the Cenarion Expidition and the Cenarion War Hippogryph? Sure, it's a single mount, but a cool one!
Iirdan Mar 31st 2011 8:45PM
Exactly. I am curious as to why this was omitted; when you're trying to get 100 mounts, every one counts.
Marbles Mar 31st 2011 7:29PM
Extra info on some reputations:
Some normal dungeons offer reputation, but only upto 5999/6000 Friendly, so if you are aiming at starting from 0 reputation, consider grinding those normals before questing. This will cut down on the number of harder/heroid instances to run.
Those normals are:
Thrallmar: Hellfire Ramparts & Blood Furnace
Cenarion Expedition: Slave Pens & Underbog
Lower City: Auchenei Crypts.
Consortium: Mana-Tombs.
Other normals (Seth Halls, Durnholde, etc) offer Rep all the way upto Exalted. Note, Cenarion Expedition also has a repeatable quest for Unidentified Plant Parts (zone-wide drop in Zangarmarsh) which also grants rep upto Honoured.
Secondly:
If you are a character which can solo level 70 instances easily, then consider picking up the Daily Normal/Heroic quests from Shattrath - two Ethereals offer them from near the bank.
Completing the Daily Normal will reward 250 Consortium Rep, 250 of the relevent faction Rep, and a single Etherium Key (which has variable uses, but generally worth ~250 rep for Consortium). Note, the key is tradable, so if you have a selection of level 80 characters, doing that daily frequently is a good method of stocking up on Keys - you'll need a fair number of keys (minimum 6) to get through the Consortium chain that leads to unlocking Yor in Mana-Tombs heroic.
Completing the Daily Heroic rewards 350 Consortium Rep, 350 relevent Rep, and 10 Justice Points. So generally only worth it if it's a dungeon you are wanting to run anyway.
Marbles Mar 31st 2011 7:31PM
The two Dailies ethereals are near the Inn sorry.
Sean Mar 31st 2011 10:47PM
Oh, the Consortium grind....so many keys and insignia passes through my hands. Actually, I am pretty sure my Druid still has a couple of prison keys on his keychain.
But the Consortium grind has the best reward of all of them...the monthly bag o' gems! Remember heading to Nagrand at the top of every month to get your free Gems? In fact, WoWInsider used to post a reminder for us.
zsxking Mar 31st 2011 7:35PM
--none of the three factions offering mounts have a dungeon associated with them.
not true, there is one faction with mount and associated to dungeons: Cenarion Expedition
And for The Sha'tari Skyguard, dailies are far from the best way of rep grind. The fastest way is to do Adversarial Blood and kill Terokk repeatly. It take only 2~3 days to exalt.
Try to do better homework for future post. All these can easily be found on wowhead.
matticus Mar 31st 2011 7:48PM
She'll try to do her homework as long as you try not to sound quite so pompous.
Guttsu Mar 31st 2011 7:58PM
Hey zsxking, stop being a dick.
Firecrow Mar 31st 2011 8:06PM
That's faction number 4. Maybe you should do your math homework first.