The OverAchiever: Mountain o' Mounts in Outland

If you're catching up with us after last week, we've finished off both The Ambassador and the first leg of Mountain o' Mounts. I have to confess that I approached both achievements from the perspective of a player who wasn't necessarily at the level cap (I've been leveling a goblin priest lately and greatly enjoying the benefits of faction tabards in dungeons), and I completely forgot that the Argent Tournament even existed. Whoops. (Either that, or I've got one hell of a mental block concerning jousting.)
This week, we're going to hit the dark portal in pursuit of more mount and reputation achievements. Outland is the single most fruitful continent for getting lots of mounts from a limited set of factions. If you've got the patience to make it to exalted with the three factions that sell transport around this shattered hellhole, you'll have an additional 19 mounts at your disposal. You can bump this up to 21 if you count the two PvP talbuks available from Halaa, but these days you'll probably have to arrange a battle royale in the zone in order to get the kills (and tokens) needed. More on this in a bit.
Otherwise, your three targets here are the Netherwing, the Sha'tari Skyguard, and the Kurenai/Mag'har. But first, a brief history lesson for all those of you who joined the game in Wrath of the Lich King and still need to work on your Outland reps ...

The problem with Outland -- if you can call it a problem, rather than a reflection of the game's realities during The Burning Crusade -- is that you're not afforded too many conveniences on the long trek to exalted with anyone. Outland tabards are awarded at exalted rather than being an early bonus to reputation gains, and most factions are also associated with particular dungeons/heroics. While it's possible to do a lot of the rep grind outside of a faction's associated heroics, most of the revered to exalted leg has to be done in the dungeons.
As an example, someone working on Honor Hold/Thrallmar rep back in the day usually lit up the local channels on an endless hunt for heroic Ramparts, Blood Furnace, or (ye gods) Shattered Halls runs. This had the unfortunate effect of making some reputations easier to grind than others. Most players were willing to do the easier heroics like Mechanar -- a relatively quick 5-man for its time -- but heroics like Shattered Halls, Mana Tombs, and Shadow Labyrinth were a much harder sell. For most folks, reputation with the Sha'tar (associated with the Mechanar and other Tempest Keep heroics) was all but guaranteed with access to an easy series of Mech runs, but Consortium rep was another matter entirely. Of WoW's three expansions so far, heroics were probably at their most difficult in BC, and tanks who were usually around 10,000-12,000 HP stepping into heroics didn't like messing around in PuGs with, say, the Cabal Shadow Priest's 2,500-DPS Mind Flay or the Nexus Stalker's Gouge.
If you're going to combine the Outland reputation and mount grinds, be advised that none of the three factions offering mounts have a dungeon associated with them. For the others, this is what you're looking at if your toon can solo a BC-era heroic. Even if your toon's well-geared, keep in mind that overconfident pulling can still land you in hot water, and the vast array of mobs that stun (dropping your avoidance to a flat zero for the stun's duration) is your biggest problem. A full guide to grinding rep for each of them is beyond the scope of this particular article, but I've provided some relevant Wowpedia links and a quick gloss:
- Honor Hold/Thrallmar Quest in Hellfire Peninsula, then grind your brains out in heroic Hellfire Ramparts, the Blood Furnace, and normal or heroic Shattered Halls.
- Cenarion Expedition There are short quest chains toward the end of Hellfire Peninsula and a few in Terokkar, but the majority of quested rep for the Cenarion Expedition will come from Zangarmarsh. Afterwards, hit heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and normal or heroic Steamvaults.
- The Consortium Ouch. Consortium rep is a dog's breakfast of random quests scattered throughout Blade's Edge, Netherstorm, and Terokkar, some turn-ins, and heroic Mana Tombs.
- Keepers of Time There's a short quest chain to get "attuned" to both BC-era CoT instances, but after that it's all Escape from Durnholde and Black Morass runs.
- Lower City Questing in Terokkar and turn-ins up until honored. Afterwards, plan on spending time in heroic Auchenai Crypts and Sethekk Halls, and normal or heroic Shadow Labyrinth.
- Sporeggar Strictly speaking, you can grind Sporeggar rep all the way to exalted with a repeatable quest after you finish the introductory series, but the Sanguine Hibiscus found in the Underbog will also be a big help.
- Shattered Sun Offensive Daily quests in and around the Isle of Quel'danas and Magisters' Terrace.

The Kurenai of Nagrand are a tribe of Broken friendly to the Alliance; The Mag'har (also of Nagrand) are the last uncorrupted tribe of orcs friendly to the Horde. Both have tamed the talbuks native to the area and will offer them to adventurers at exalted.
Talbuk mounts were among the most beloved additions to The Burning Crusade, and just about everyone did the grind back in the day. To me, they always felt like Blizzard's take on the red elk of Princess Mononoke, and even today they're really pretty mounts with lovely animations (although I think they share the ram mount's skeleton). Kind of makes you sad that so many people skip straight to flyers these days.
You'll find introductory quests for Kurenai at Orebor Harborage in Zangarmarsh; the equivalent for Horde is at the small Mag'har outpost in the northern portion of Hellfire Peninsula. Otherwise, questing from the Telaar (Kurenai) or Garadar (Mag'har) hubs in Nagrand should get you up to at least honored, and afterwards you've got yourself a lot of ogre-killin' to do. In the end, they'll cough up access to the following mounts:
- Cobalt Riding Talbuk and Cobalt War Talbuk
- Silver Riding Talbuk and Silver War Talbuk
- Tan Riding Talbuk and Tan War Talbuk
- White Riding Talbuk and White War Talbuk. The latter is interesting in that it has a very distinctive purplish hoof and horn color unique among the talbuk models.
The other need for the talbuks is 20 Halaa Research Tokens, and those are available with turn-ins of Oshu'gun Crystal Powder, which are random drops off mobs in Nagrand. Save any you get while you're grinding ogres for the Kurenai/Mag'har talbuks.

The Sha'tari Skyguard are a contingent of the Sha'tar fighting force largely concerned with aerial threats from Blade's Edge demons and Terokkar arrakoa. At exalted, they'll offer you an array of nether rays (termed by less-affectionate players the "flying sperm"), on which it's terrific fun to perch a character the size of a tauren or draenei due to the sheer improbability of ... well, everything.
You'll get started on your Skyguard odyssey with Yuula, located next to the Shattrath City flight master. They'll run you through a short and easy introductory quest chain, and then it's dailies, dailies, and more dailies in both the Skettis and Ogri'la locations until you hit exalted. You'll have access to the following at that point:
- Blue Riding Nether Ray
- Green Riding Nether Ray
- Purple Riding Nether Ray
- Red Riding Nether Ray
- Silver Riding Nether Ray

The Netherwing are definitely one of WoW's more interesting factions, and there's a fabulous story behind their existence that actually touches on one of Cataclysm's story threads. They were Blizzard's first experiment with an immersive, quest-based reputation grind, and it's easy to see the seeds of where the developers went with that in Wrath.
You'll get your start with Kindness, a quest offered by what appears to be a blood elf named Mordenai in the southeastern portion of Shadowmoon Valley. The end of the quest chain will get you to neutral with the Netherwing and then send you to Netherwing Ledge, where you'll be tasked with taking the Dragonmaw orc empire down from within to free enslaved nether drakes. As with the Skyguard, this will ultimately involve the hell of a lot of dailies, but you'll get a great lore moment (and even a series of air races, itself the subject of an achievement) toward the end.
- Azure Netherwing Drake
- Cobalt Netherwing Drake
- Onyx Netherwing Drake
- Purple Netherwing Drake
- Veridian Netherwing Drake
- Violet Netherwing Drake
Also read: Combining The Ambassador and Mountain O' Mounts
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Marshal Mar 31st 2011 8:28PM
Judging by your posts made here, you seem to only want the free stuff. Come out of your troll cave when there are contests going on. And stay there.
jfofla Mar 31st 2011 7:48PM
The Dark Talbuks were a hard grind.
I wish they would put in a 150 reward.
anjeney Mar 31st 2011 7:56PM
I ground out rep for the armored hyp... hyppo.. yeah the winged birdish thing for the Cenarions up in borean tundra. Turning in ears is a quick way to grind it.. I was friendly and 2 days later I had the mount. Best mobs to kill are the minions.. uber fast repop, dropped over 100 in about 45 min. fly and turn in, rinse and repeat.
jorge_av Mar 31st 2011 10:33PM
Was waiting for someone to mention the ear turn in in Borean, I found it easiest with the loot crazed divers. They respawn so fast, by the time you kill everything and loot, the entire lake respawned. Just get some elixirs of greater water breathing if you're not a lock.
Or, if you like soloing lvl 70 dungeons, do heroic steamvaults. Mobs drop the armaments, those can be turned in for a lot of rep too.
Swifteye Apr 1st 2011 3:17AM
Actually, Steamvault is the one dungeon that *doesn't* have to be run on Heroic to grant rep. I tried it both ways, but found that regular Steamvault was a much better rep-per-hour ratio... yes, the regular mobs grant less rep than the Heroic ones, but you can kill MANY more mobs at a time, and they seem to have the same drop rate of Coilfang Armaments.
I think I finished that entire grind in about four hours, only had to do seven runs, I believe.
Amaxe Apr 1st 2011 9:51AM
That was a few wearying days of farming ears... though not as bad as the Wintersaber grind.
I did the ears and scanned the AH for the coilfang armaments. They probably aren't as cheap as they were when I did it though
It helps to get a ton of the unidentified plant parts first and turn them constantly before getting any quests done... of course that isn't so cheap either any more. Too late for mains. But something to think of for alts.
Tokhand Mar 31st 2011 7:57PM
Things Missed:
- The easiest way to grind out Skyguard rep is the powder, but really only after you kill Terokk. The best way to grind out Skyguard rep is to repeatedly kill Terokk because you should take this grind out on someone.
- Combine Lower City rep and Mo'M, try (and fail... /angry) to get the Raven Lord mount from Anzu on Heroic. It's a pretty quick and straight-forward dungeon and once you try and fail at getting the coolest ground mount in the game, it sort becomes an obsession until you do (I have not).
- Thank you to the guy mentioned doing the Daily Dungeon quests in Shat for Consortium rep! I had forgotten about that and couldn't figure out a cleaner way than repeated Mana Tombs runs.
- Doing all of the quests for Expedition landed me somewhere at the far edge of Honored (or even revered). Remember this because there are item turn-in quests for rep as well that stop at Friendly or Honored. Similarly with Lower City with their Feathers and I believe there is a similar situation with Shat'ar.
Nivella Mar 31st 2011 8:05PM
Unfortunately, the white war talbuk is known now for the purple hooves and horns it USED to have.
I think this was changed when 4.06 dropped, and my Tol Barad adventures have been less colorful ever since.
Boobah Mar 31st 2011 8:43PM
Apparently, the unique color was a bug that someone finally fixed in 4.0.6 despite no one asking for it.
The blues have mentioned that that's being reverted in the next patch, IIRC.
Marshal Mar 31st 2011 8:30PM
Well said with The Consortium rep. Couldn't have said it better myself D:
Dave Mar 31st 2011 9:16PM
The Halaa talbuks require 100 battle tokens and 20 research tokens for the War Talbuk, 70 battle tokens and 15 research tokens for the Riding Talbuk.
Angus Apr 1st 2011 1:01AM
You need more upratings.
I was wondering why it said 20 each
blissfire Apr 2nd 2011 12:40AM
Also, for this: Remember to turn your Oshu'gun Crystal Powder into Research Tokens regularly! I forgot to do this and the Unique (100) thing caught me. I didn't notice when the Powder stopped dropping, and even though I killed enough ogres to get exalted for the regular mounts, I have nowhere near enough Tokens for the pvp mounts.
Valorum Mar 31st 2011 9:26PM
If I remember correctly from my Netherwing grind, it's best to save your eggs until you hit revered and then turn them all in.
Regardless, I know when I was doing it I found videos on youtube that gave a tour of every single place an egg can spawn and for me it worked perfectly. Did a loop, went off to do something else, came back an hour or a few later and ran the loop again.
kenneth.kincade Mar 31st 2011 9:51PM
If I faction change from horde to allie what will happen up my trycs
Killik Apr 1st 2011 12:45PM
Silly goblin, trycs are for kids :p
Saeadame Mar 31st 2011 10:00PM
Ugh, man the Dark War/Riding Talbuks were such a grind. I think it was made worse by the fact that I had finished Mag'har rep and hadn't been saving my Powder Samples for that whole time. But grinding 35 Research tokens = 700 powder samples... which is a lot. Whatever, I have them both now, even though I actually don't like the armor on the Dark War Talbuk that much.
Whatever.
(And yes, I made a deal with a friend of mine with a max level toon of the opposite faction to let me kill him 170 times for the Battle Tokens).
Angus Apr 1st 2011 1:01AM
it is now 10 powder per token.
lady.silverdragon Mar 31st 2011 10:05PM
I am working on my cenarion rep right now (after grinding the skyguard from neutral to exalted in a day thanks to endless Terokk kills), and I'd strongly advise anyone not exalted with Sporregar to focus on heroic underbog. Sure, it's not the most exciting dungeon, but if you can solo it you can get about 30 hibiscus in a run, which translates to 4500 rep. Beats the endless naga killing quest hands down!
Avengleyne Mar 31st 2011 10:26PM
A nice quiet day, A Dot class & a Loot-er-rang should help you get Both Mag'har & Consortium rep up together nice & easy.
Kill Ogres like its going out of fashion & get Mag'har rep for doing so, Loot-er-rang the mobs for the beads to hand in for consortium rep. Take a break by running Mana-tombs.