Gold Capped: Can you ever have too many alchemists?

I got an email from Kaefera that got me thinking:
So this is something I've heard before, but more in Wrath of the Lich King, when alchemist cooldowns represented a very serious amount of gold per day. The reasoning was (and is) that if you level a bunch of alchemists, you can log in once a day to each character to use their cooldowns and make disgusting amounts of gold with virtually no effort. The question is, does this still work well enough to justify the investment?I have recently been leveling 9x level 75 characters on my server, to completely abuse professions and make some serious cash. I'm currently giving each of them alchemy, I have 4 transmute specced alchemists so far, currently growing at a rate of an alchemist a week.
My question to you is more of a suggestion, what would you suggest to grab as a secondary profession on each of them? I would like something similar to my Truegold, where I can log on once a day on each character, craft/do whatever in 5 minutes, then move to the next.
The alchemy daily cooldown
This trick really took off when alchemists were given the ability to transmute epic gems. The demand was huge, and the supply was thin. Every alchemist you had was another cut red gem on the AH, representing a decent daily income. Now the transmute for the best gems that people buy are not on a cooldown, so alchemists need to use their cooldowns on something else.
The most popular use for the daily transmute cooldown, Truegold, seems to be less obviously profitable on many realms. Unlike gems that sell to anyone who gets gear upgrades, Truegold mainly sells to people who are crafting gear, and more often than not, its consumption is tied to the production of Chaos Orbs. Truegold cooldowns sell for a couple of hundred gold at most, and they are often available in the auction house at close to the raw materials cost.
There are other nice niche markets you might be able to use your alchemy cooldown profitably on, but none of them will add up to more than a couple of hundred gold per alchemist per day. In fact, even the epic gem transmute didn't add up to more than that -- it just felt more profitable because in Wrath, everyone had less gold. Inflation, man. It'll kill you.
Any port in a storm
So my answer is that it's probably not worth making a bunch of alchemists; however, let's look at what's really being asked. Kaefera seems to want to invest time and money into creating a low-work, low-risk, "guaranteed" income. Let's look at some other professions and see if any of them qualify for good "cooldown mules".
Jewelcrafting is a candidate, simply because the JC daily rewards a token that can be directly redeemed for a Chimera's Eye. These are used by JCers for their JC-only increased stat gems, as well as for several BoE blues. These sell for anywhere between 100-500g, depending on your realm.
Tailoring is a very good candidate because tailors can make Dreamcloth, the Truegold of the dressmakers' world. There are several different cooldowns to make these, and it boils down to 5 per week. While the cloth itself is BoP, it can be sold indirectly by making and selling bags, spellthread, and a few epic BoEs.
Other than these, I can't think of much. Inscription has a dinky little quest you can do on a cooldown, but it's not worth the ink and probably never will be. Your best bet in terms of daily revenue would be a couple of tailors and jewelcrafters; however, I'd like to challenge whether this is actually a good idea.
Easy money isn't easyEasy money is worth more than hard-earned money. We all have limits on our playtime, whether it's the number hours we can stay awake after chugging two gallons of Mountain Dew or aiming to spend more than 80% of our "free" time with our family. In addition to the actual gold cost of leveling the profession, everyone needs to factor the investment of time required to get a business started into their decision.
The biggest factor in your decision is going to be centered on leveling all those characters. Assuming you don't take much less time to get a non-death knight character to 85 than I do, this represents the single largest cost in setting up something like this. At first glance, it seems like leveling these guys is something you wouldn't have done otherwise, and therefore, I'd recommend that you compare the revenue that you'll make with your cooldown mules to the revenue you lost by spending weeks and months of valuable playtime frolicking around in Feralas.
That said, one of my biggest competitors (also a good friend and officer in my guild) has a bunch of level 85s, and he would likely have them whether he needed the profession slots or not. If he were comparing the value of nine cooldown mules, he wouldn't need to consider the time spent leveling characters, because that's something he'd have done anyway. When I do this math, I do need to consider it, because I have exactly one max-level character and will never have another one unless it can't be avoided. If you're not the type of person who will play through the same soul-crushing grind to get all your characters up to at least level 75, you need to count the time spent doing that.
... at least?
There are eight crafting professions, a couple of which require level 84 to get to the good stuff. The lion's share of the profit from most of these professions comes from the production and marketing of cooldown-free items. The optimal setup for the non-cooldown portion of business is one of each character of the minimum level possible to achieve the desired recipes. Load stuff like blacksmithing and enchanting onto the same characters so that you need to get as few characters to 84 and into Twilight Highlands as possible.
Just so we're clear, so far, we're at four characters, and only two of them need to be level 84. Every character after this has two primary professions, and assuming you give each of them some combination of tailoring (if you're willing to level them to 84), alchemy, and jewelcrafting, that represents a cooldown that you can log into every day.
Cooldown revenue
Every single cooldown mule has to be justified by the cooldown revenue and possibly the pleasure of running a toon through Stranglethorn for the ninth time. The revenue isn't unlimited, either. It will last until the end of this expansion, at which point the only lasting value it will have is that you won't need to level a character again.
If you have characters with free profession slots, don't feel you absolutely have to fill them. Once you have the ability to make everything, the time and money you spend working on these duplicate professions could also have been spent working on your other crafting professions. It may be easier to move into the bag or BoA enchant market than it would be to level yet another jewelcrafter, alchemist, or tailor. Basically, unless you feel that you have the market for your current tradeskills so well nailed down that you'd be wasting time trying to get lower costs or higher sales, stopping to level a mostly duplicate tradeskill is a clear loss in money.
Admittedly, cooldowns are easier, but figure out how many weeks you need to break even if you're at 4,500 gold per character per week. If it's worth it but you don't yet have a character capable of learning these cooldowns, consider how much money you could make in the /played time it can take to get a character to your target level.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Moon Man Apr 7th 2011 1:08PM
This inspires Moon Man to shove all the gold spammers into a shopping cart full of enraged gorillas! olololololololol!!!!
Cuts Apr 7th 2011 1:30PM
MAN! That made me lol SO hard.
Hollow Leviathan Apr 7th 2011 1:34PM
...I think you've had enough.
hicks Apr 7th 2011 2:47PM
I am only saying this because I care - there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.
Basil Berntsen Apr 7th 2011 3:36PM
...?
Natsumi Apr 7th 2011 6:28PM
But....there's barely even room for 1 enraged gorilla in a shopping cart. Surely you'd rather use something that holds more, like a clown car or a horse drawn carriage.
Poltergeist Apr 7th 2011 8:35PM
Basil,
Latest datamined patch notes on that other site have the price of cut green gems selling for 75 silver, down from 9 gold.
You pretty much have your topic for your next article right there.
timekeeper Apr 8th 2011 7:24AM
@hicks:
Very much win. That's been one of my favorite movies.
Alacran77 Apr 7th 2011 1:29PM
I have three alchemists and two JC's. I have a couple of other toons that I could train alchemy on but I'm going to wait to see if epic transmutes are going to happen again.
One of my JC's is just doing the daily and holding onto the token in the hope that they will be useful for buying epic cuts in the future.
Between the 5 toons it's a lot of logging in and out, and gets tedious day after day. I don't even bother to log onto my tailor or my two inscriptionists.
matt Apr 7th 2011 1:35PM
Yeah, i totally understand this. I have 3 max level toons with 2x alch, 1 JC, 1 Insc, 1 ench, and 1 tailor. and logging in to manage finances has become a major headache with a lot of loading screen time.
-log in on banker
-- get mail
-- buy mats I'll need
--mail out mats
-log in on JC
--get mail
--do daily
-log in on alch1
--get mail
--transmute
--send to banker
-log in on alch2
--get mail
--transmute
--send to banker
-log in on banker
--get mail
--post auctions
-log in to play WoW
Scard Apr 7th 2011 7:50PM
Matt, that pretty much describes my 20-min money-making routine:
-log in on banker
-- get mail
-- check prices of mats I use daily, buy lots if its cheap (volatiles, pyrite, embersilk cloth, obsidium ore)
-- mail out mats to various toons
-log in on alch1
-- get mail
-- transmute
-- send to banker
-log in on JC1
-- get mail
-- do daily
-log in on alch2
-- get mail
-- transmute
-- send to banker
-log into JC2
-- get mail
-- do daily
-log into Tailor1
-- get mail
-- do weekly dreamcloth
-log into Tailor2
-- get mail
-- do weekly dreamcloth
-log in on banker
--get mail
--post auctions
-log in to play WoW
Two addons have substantially changed how quickly I can do all this: 1) Postal (I can't believe I didn't download this earlier!!) and 2) Auctionator (way better than Auctioneer for tracking prices for commonly purchased items to gobble up lots when they go "on sale")
Texanatthedoor Apr 7th 2011 1:32PM
Take 5-6 toons past 75 to 86, and level up every prof, including gatherers, to 525. Now you are completely self-sufficient. You can stop grinding fake money, and, you know, just play the game.
Kunikenwad! Apr 7th 2011 2:47PM
If you level to 86, you win WoW.
Texanatthedoor Apr 7th 2011 3:01PM
Damn iPhone....
Basil Berntsen Apr 7th 2011 3:38PM
Your way works too. My way, however, leads to a lot more gold in my bags.
Neyssa Apr 7th 2011 1:31PM
I also have 2 alchemists so I can understand your feeling. On our server, truegold cooldown is down to 75g! I only make truegold if my friends need it, otherwise I do the living elements. Since I have a Tailor as well, and dreamcloth requires all kind of volatiles, I usually prepare the tailoring mats by alchemy.
Although I dont really find tailoring profitable either (I actually just wanted the carpet :).
Bronwyn Apr 7th 2011 1:32PM
I see that you have mentioned the Rhinestone Sunglasses in this post.. are they even implemented in the game yet? Any ideas on whether they're going to be in the next patch? I've seen nothing of them, but I want a pair badly.
Basil Berntsen Apr 7th 2011 3:39PM
I don't know- I assumed they were in game but I didn't try to make them.
chirality Apr 7th 2011 1:35PM
"While the cloth itself is BoE" should read "While the cloth itself is BOP"
Eirik Apr 7th 2011 3:08PM
As well, the rhinestone sunglasses vanity item cannot be made because you cannot currently make the stardust.