WoW Rookie: How to become a PvP legend, step 1
After last week's discussion about how to win Tol Barad, we received several emails asking, "How do I PvP?" These aren't questions about how to fight in the battlegrounds or even a request for the basic PvP rules. Instead, the question is how to get good at it.
As we dive into the topic, let me say first and foremost: Opinions vary on the "best" ways to learn PvP. I'm a person who finds the very heart of the game in player versus player content. I advise tanks and healers regularly to "get thee to a battleground," since that's the best place to practice reaction time, environmental awareness, and other pure skill reflexes. While it seems to me that Cataclysm has shifted its focus mostly away from PvP, that arena of play is still my favorite.
The second important caveat is that learning to PvP can be hard. Mods won't help you much. There's nothing like Deadly Boss Mods to warn you when a player opponent is going to use certain attacks. Macros are certainly very helpful, but the road to getting good at PvP is lined with hundreds and thousands of deaths. Make your peace with the spirit healer now, and let's learn how to PvP.
W, A, S, and D are your mortal enemies
The keyboard is your enemy. Not the entire keyboard, naturally, but specifically the old movement keys are your enemy. They are slow, clumsy, and inelegant. You will occasionally hear an experienced PvP maven talk about using keys for strafing, but put that off until you've mastered the tool of the PvP player: the mouse.
Turning and moving your character with the mouse is faster. Your character whips left and right in real time with your mouse, instead of the slow-paced about-face you get with a keyboard turn.
More importantly, if you're controlling your character with your mouse, your other hand is free for keyboard commands. Mastering this mouse movement simultaneously with executing keyboard attacks will significantly increase your skill at the game.
Trust me, learn this style of control first. No fancy peripherals, special keyboards, or flashy light-up mouse will get you as far as giving up W, A, S, and D.
Unlearn your PvE mindsetThere is an absolutely mind-blowing amount of math involved in the PvE game. Boss abilities, procs, rotations, and specs have all been boiled down to their most finite elements. You can easily find this information with simple Google searches; there is little mystery left in the PvE game.
Very little of that vast amount of knowledge applies to PvP. Your experience will change wildly depending on which battle you're fighting, what your team members do, and what your opponents do.
Strategies aren't completely unknowable, of course. But your abilities and specs are all different. For example, talents that boost your survivability or cut down on your opponent's toolbox are more favored in PvP than in PvE.
You'll have to experiment. If you find yourself dying way too quickly, you probably want more resilience and stamina on your gear. If you find yourself surviving epic encounters but being unable to kill the opponent, then you may want more damage stats.
Your rotation will become about what you can get off instead of executing an elegant rotation. You'll start hitting your big attacks during good "gib" moments instead of on a rotation, because you'll need capitalize on weakness more than doing a general, high-DPS rotation.
Know the landscapeYou almost never want to be out in the open. You should strive to stay in cover, only peeking around the corner long enough to let loose your own damage. As soon as you've blown through a damage rotation, duck back behind the obstacle so that the enemy can't return fire.
Tactics like these probably sound silly when you're talking about a video game, but they absolutely matter. You can't DPS that which you cannot target.
Learn the other classes
One of the most effective strategies I've practiced over the years is leveling a character of every class. Of course, that's a bigger time investment now than it was years ago, but it's still a great idea.
Leveling and playing all of the classes will educate you about the fundamental mechanics of your enemies. You'll learn what different graphics mean about ability use. You'll learn their strengths and weaknesses.
Most importantly, you'll learn what really horks you off as that class. If something wrecks your day as a warrior, for example, you'll know to do exactly that to any warriors you later fight.
Keep practicing
You notice I lead off promising that you would die a lot. I stand by that promise. If you're learning how to PvP, you're going to die a lot. But keep at it.
Try to pay attention to what kills you, though. Were you out in the open? Were you getting tag-teamed by greater numbers? Keep a little notebook and keep track of the circumstances of your deaths and losses.
Over time, you'll very quickly start to see patterns. When you've determined that you die in a certain situation more often that others, then the key comes to avoid that situation. If you're dying in a tunnel in Warsong Gulch because you got outnumbered, don't go back into the tunnel without some friends of your own.
But above all else, give up the keyboard turning. We'll talk more about advanced PvP techniques next week.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Gimmlette Apr 7th 2011 9:10AM
YES! Cranius to illustrate the article. I chuckle every time I see this and, ironically, I've had this catchy ditty stuck in my head for 3 days. Thanks for reinforcing that, Insider.
techvoodooguy Apr 7th 2011 9:12AM
"Of course, that's a bigger time investment now than it was years ago, but it's still a great idea."
It is a great idea, but the timesink now is comparable to what it was during BC and possibly even during Vanilla due to reduced XP requirements and faster XP rates.
Gimmlette Apr 7th 2011 9:12AM
YES! Cranius to illustrate the article. I chuckle every time I see this. "A legend in my time, not a legend in my mind", is my favorite line. Ironically, I've had this ditty stuck in my head for the past 3 days. Thanks so much for reinforcing that, Insider. Best head off to YouTube to find "It's a Small World."
Gimmlette Apr 7th 2011 9:13AM
Delete! Want to buy a computer that does things faster. Cripes....
Solanstus Apr 7th 2011 9:17AM
The only quandary I have with mouses is how to go backwards, which is a very important part of my movement in what little PvP experience I have...
Aalokor Apr 7th 2011 9:43AM
You don't have to be facing directly at your opponent to attack him. point to the side so he's just under 90 degrees from your camera and strafe away. you won't go slower than him (like you do when backpedaling) and if he's melee you can still dodge/parry/block (if applicable) his attacks
Panger2001 Apr 7th 2011 10:09AM
I hot keyed the backwards to my roller on the mouse. press down and there you are. I also keyed my two side mouse buttons for straifing
gamerunknown Apr 7th 2011 11:46AM
There's an option to bind a command to turn around 180 degrees, so if you haven't gotten the hang of strafing while facing the opponent, you can hit that button and then autowalk (bind them to " F8, F9 " or " ; , ' " I guess).
Unfortunately there is no command to turn around 360 degrees and then moonwalk away as far as I'm aware :(
Camo Apr 7th 2011 9:17AM
Most important: Stick to the objectives!
Even without much resilience most classes can annoy (hello death grip) the other team long enough for your team to take the lead.
It's also possible to kite the other team away from objects and distract them while someone caps it (or cap yourself while the enemy gets zerged but no one cares for the flag/etc).
MastrBlastr Apr 7th 2011 9:24AM
Im so use to keyboard turning but switching to mouse might be the edge im looking for. I'll have to reread the article about key binds.
Neseroth Apr 7th 2011 9:32AM
Best video EVAR!
mibu.work1 Apr 7th 2011 9:36AM
THe mouse movement cannot be emphasised enough. I have known great PvPers who have taken out far superior numbers simply because of manuverability.
Personally, I find that one of the most important skills a PvPer can learn is the ambush, and how to recognize a good ambush. Rogues learn this instinctively, and it's fairly easy as a druid or hunter to pick it up, but its tougher for the other classes. The ambush is simply when you spot an opportunity, a weak opponent straying from the pack, or a diligent ranged DPSer or healer has slipped into tunnel vision. As a hunter, this is when I send in my camouflaged pet, launch a trap, and start plugging away. If you are able to approach, strike, kill, and fade away again, you are a master at the ambush. Other classes without stealth can get in on the action too. Warriors can use their various charges from behind, shamans can ghost-wolf up and use either stormstrike or thunderstorm as a devastating and distracting opening move, warlocks can line up a baker's dozen DoTs and so on. Learn to ambush, and learn to apply that ambush at strategic moments, and you will be the ruler of a battleground.
Learn your surroundings. It is surprising how helpful this can be. If you're a flag carrier, and you know JUST the right part of the water in twin-peaks to jump over, you can get back to the base with a minimum of effort, while your persuers will have to swim. Even half a second of swimming is a HUGE speed penalty that can mean the difference between victory and defeat. Altitude is also important. A hunter high off the ground can disengage far from his enemies from atop a hill, while an elemental shaman or balance druid can launch enemies great distances. If you are at a lower elevation than your opponent, your knockback isn't going to make much difference, but if you're above them, watch them soar.
(Note: Ambushes work even better in World PvP)
anjeney Apr 7th 2011 9:36AM
Oh Cranius how I adore ya!
This is an extreme solution but I learned pvp by making a char on a pvp server and living with it through 80 levels. But the time I hit that goal.. I knew everything NOT to do.. (yes death was my friend oh my yes) and I learned what I could do to survive and win. The only problem with pvp server is, for example, as a lowbie you have NO defensibly when you are flagged against some 11teen who's an 80 or 70, ehh you know what I mean. If someone has a bad day in gym class or at work, grey doesn't matter.. they camp you just to vent their spleen. Now back in the day you could send a shout out for (insert level here) to come and take care of the twit. These days.. most of the zones are emptyish (yes it's a made up word.. ) and you're on your own.
Something that few probably still use is the carbonite addon. They have this sweet little thing called Punks. It's almost impossible to be surprised by pvp with this on. It tells you when a punk is anywhere near you. It's great in battlefields because the brighter red their name glows.. the closer they are.
Thanks once more for Cranius.. he so rocks
anjeney Apr 7th 2011 9:39AM
-grumbles and narrows her eyes- Okay defence.. it's bc (before coffee) so please forgive the typo
gatorforest Apr 7th 2011 9:48AM
Okay you wonderful PvP'ers
I have long since made peace with my spirit healer. But here is the question for all those that INSIST on telling me to drive with my mouse and not my keyboard.
How in the world do you expect me to HEAL (world PvP, arena, or any other PvP venue) driving with my mouse when I have to go from the center of my screen (because I am driving with the mouse) and then to some other portion of the screen (while driving of course) to click on a face plate, a person, or a mod (take your pick for your style of healing)?
This is about the 10th time I have seen WoW insider do this from a DPS point of view. Do the healing PvP champs use a similar control system? I would like to see a PvP healing champ's point of view. After all, not all of us are pew pew. Gimme some PvP healin' lovin!
Sincerely, a keyboard driver and mouse healer!
Thanks :)
anuillae Apr 7th 2011 10:18AM
They are right to tell you to give up keyboard turning. Even as a healer, if you turn with the mouse you can still use Clique or Grid for healing - trust me, turning takes less time than you would think. Telling you to move with your mouse, however, is not right. You *should* be using WAD, but as Forwards, Strafe Left, and Strafe Right. Never backpedal, by the way.
Leptos Apr 7th 2011 10:18AM
It's pretty similar. I use a mouseover macro for all my heals: "/cast [@mouseover,help,exists] [@target,help,exists] [@player] flash heal" is an example, and you can just substitute the name of your heal. And I have my raid frames out in battlegrounds and arenas, so I can easily hover over whichever player I'm healing.
So the end result is this: to move forward I hit W, to turn I hold down my right mouse button, and to cast flash heal I hit my flash heal hotkey (E in my case) while hovering over whoever I want to flash heal.
It's a little tougher than DPSing, but once you get practice with it it's very intuitive.
Cuts Apr 7th 2011 10:35AM
Ok, if I got it right, you have issues driving with your mouse (aka turning left and right) and clicking name plates (mid screen) of bars (top right or w/e).
I'm a holy paladin and I'm at 1600 rating (not that much, but should mean something) and 3,4k resil.
I have SUF (shadowed frames) as my bars addon, and I don't have a single problem clicking my arena mates health bars to heal them, since healing doesn't require you to be facing them.
As for interrupts, stuns, disables, I like using focus macros, so I just set my focus to the healer and blast away my skills without having to target them.
Another issue would be not having hotkeys for all (I mean ALL) your skills... clicking those little squares is a great time loss, plus, it will make your mouse maneuvers slower.
Right now I'm not using any plate addons, but it would be a nice addition to make targetting easier (since it's right in your face). Suggestions accepted.
If you have any other doubt about it, feel free to ask.
Curts - Gurubashi
Dumbguy Apr 7th 2011 10:46AM
You don't actually move with the mouse- or at least I don't. You *turn* with the mouse. You move forward and strafe with keys.
Back when I converted from keyboard to mouse turning (in my defense, I had previously been constrained to using a macbook with only a touchpad...) I didn't understand this, and it was awful. Once I realized I was still allowed to use w, a and d to move around things became awesome.
To speak specifically about healing, most of the time (during combat) the direction you're facing isn't of critical importance anyway, and in the rare cases that it is, you can easily turn during half a cast or GCD- during which you don't need to be clicking on anything else.
William.Howton Apr 7th 2011 3:56PM
I also am a primary healer and play all caster roles. I keyboard turn as well and clique cast (for both healing and dps). I have learned to be extremely efficient working this way for both pvp and pve. Using clique/grid allows me to have close to zero downtime and frees me up to keep my situational awareness. mouse movement in my opinion is most crucial for melee classes that are constantly working their (attack from behind) angles. I also use a 24 button mouse so with clique and shift I can have 48 actions on my mouse. With grid positioned near my character graphic it's fairly easy to conduct a quick mouse turn if I need to do quick 180 degree turns in emergencies but tend keep myself at range and have learned the essential skill of steadying everywhere so 180 degree turns are only situationally needed. If I was to play melee classses though I would definitely have to redo my ui and action model.