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4-10-2011 @ 10:46PM
I stopped playing Alliance almost exclusively due to the quest chain in Westfall. Now, as anyone who has read my article review of Westfall from the beta will know, I absolutely love the zone. Wonderful storytelling, and a very fun chain. The problem is that I cannot justify what was done there. The sheer negligence is appalling, and then to have us as players go in and kill a group simply trying to ensure the survival and justification of its membership?I can't justify that in any sense.(Now, before a lot of people come in and bring up the Undead question, there's a difference. Stormwind and the Alliance pride themselves on being just and righteous; Westfall shows that they aren't, at least not always. The Forsaken? They don't care. They are evil down to the bone and they make no attempt to hide it. Now that I can get behind. It's the hypocrisy that irks me.)
4-11-2011 @ 12:01AM
"The sheer negligence is appalling, and then to have us as players go in and kill a group simply trying to ensure the survival and justification of its membership?"If I'm reading what you said correctly, then I do agree with you - the negligence that Stormwind has shown to its citizens is appalling. I understand that the nation is hurting for money after the war in Northrend, and so it's unable to take care of things within its own borders. But actively working to keep those homeless out of the shelter that Sentinel Hill could provide? Not good at all.However. The new Defias Brotherhood's methods of 'simply trying to ensure the survival and justification of its membership' include creating a violent uprising, allying with destructive individuals (the Deadmines bosses, the ogre and the worgen in particular), and generally trying to incite rebellion. I don't think that these are the actions of people who want justice, they're more like those of people who want revenge.Neither side is in the right, that much is clear. And while I do wish there was a way to side with Vanessa during that storyline, considering the limits of an MMO, I understand why we can't. Striking down the new Brotherhood might not be the best decision, but in this bad situation, I can see why it had to be done.
4-11-2011 @ 6:01AM
I hope you're not a United States citizen then: because every year, we pay farmers 1.8 billion dollars NOT to grow crops to control agriculture prices (mostly for the benefit of Agra-business). Is that any more evil, in a country where we pride ourselves on "Amber waves of grain"?Oh, if you're from the EU, don't feel much better - they bought and destroyed over 5 billion Pounds Sterling worth of crops and destroyed them, again to control prices.As far as I know, people are still going hungry.It is hard to feed people. It is hard to get grain to people who need it - and for that grain to be usable, and for the farmer to be paid adequately for it.Life is more complicated then you give it credit for.
4-11-2011 @ 2:12PM
Saint stryfePayments to farmers to not grow crops has one effect you may not know about and the is to leave the land to rest for a cycle.
4-11-2011 @ 3:09PM
Verine: Any farmer since the late Bronze age knows about crop rotation - letting sections of your crop go fallow for a year (or planting something that feeds it like cover or alfalfa). but that's not why they do it. It's done because it controls agriculture prices.
4-11-2011 @ 4:16PM
Actually, Stryfe, that's what they wanted.In the late 19th and early 20th century, the Populist party - a political party formed by and for the interest of farmers - demanded regulation of prices. The price on goods had fallen too low because of the abundance of crops, and it was very difficult for farmers to make a decent living. They asked for it, and were ignored at the time. During the Progressive reform era of the 1910s and 20s, they caved and allowed it.(/historybuff)
4-11-2011 @ 4:22PM
I'm intrigued to see how some of you folks interpret the American Revolution.*Damn* those uppity colonist for getting fed up with a self-evidently negligent monarch! And then taking up arms over it? Nothing more than villains, I say!
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