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4-12-2011 @ 5:34PM
KLRMNKY said...
And to add another reason why tanks have stopped queueing
Healers and DPS ninjaing tanking gear.
With the added ability to never see that tank again, in all likelyhood, gives the ninjas an added bonus.
Having lost multiple rolls of plate tanking gear (+parry/+dodge) to paladins, who queue as either DPS or heals because they need it for their offspec, has turned me completely off from tanking in any Cata dungeon, heroic or normal.
The only toon that I do any limited tanking on is with my druid and unless my guild is doing a run, I will not tank in any LFD.
How are people expected to gear their tanks with other classes, and for some reason hunters can still roll need on +str gear, rolling need on tanking gear?
For example: I had a paladin healer tell me that I was really hard to heal my warrior tank during a normal BRC run. This was mainly because my gear was a mixture of cata greens and wrath blues. He kept moaning about it, but when two pieces of tanking gear, the chestpiece and neckpiece, both of which were huge upgrades for me, what does he do?
He rolls NEED... and of course, he wins both items.
This is just one example among hundreds. So if Blizz wants to get me back as a tank in LFD, then they need to fix the loot system. Having to gear up everyone else's off spec while my main spec suffers if no fun at all.
Throwing mounts and flasks at me ain't going to bring me back while the loot system remains completely broke.
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4-12-2011 @ 5:50PM
Brett Porter said...
I honestly see them fixing this. Who knows when, but it is something I'm sure is on their radar and something they are working on. I can definitely appreciate the frustration that would cause, and I have definitely been lucky that when someone needs for an OS they ask ahead of time, or at least at the time of the role.
For example, this weekend I was running H Throne and a piece dropped that wasn't an upgrade for me since I'm already raid ready, the fury warrior asked if he could need on it for his OS. Most definitely! And I appreciate he checked ahead of time without assuming I didn't need it.
I look forward to the day when they have a couple more options on the loot window, but hopefully not too many that it gets cluttered or unmanageable.
4-12-2011 @ 6:06PM
Grovinofdarkhour said...
They've already got a system in place that prevents you from rolling need if it's not of your armor type.
So what exactly is preventing them from adding a few criteria, such as whether the piece matches your role in that group?
If someone is in group as a healer, like your paladin, they shouldn't be allowed to roll need on something with dodge, for example. If only the tank can roll need, and the tank doesn't need it, it goes to greed, where it makes perfect sense that the holy pally should be allowed to roll for it.
4-12-2011 @ 6:17PM
wayne_scott said...
A good point. and one which sparks a "that reminds me"
I leveled two toons when Cata went live: a Warrior tank and my main, a Paladin tank.
My Paladin is a Blacksmith (both are miners) so I was able to level my smithing fairly quickly. But I was more than a little put out to discover that I while I could craft DPS plate quite early on ... I couldn't make any tank gear of the same ilevel.
So as a tank I had no choice but to enter my first Cata 5 man (a guild run) significantly less geared than my guildies who were wearing crafted gear.
After numerous normal runs with the (to be expected) crappy drops my guildies were all desperate to run Heroics ... so I started LFDing normals to grind JP and faction rep to speed my gearing up.
In other words I had to run the 5 man normals much more often than my DPS mates to end up at the same place they were.
Eventually we got to the point where we started doing heroics - but by that time I was well and truly sick of the content.
At the same time our guild imploded (due to unrelated issues) and after things had settled down I'd discovered a complete lack of interest in the PvE content. So now I'm doing BGs where I can gear as quickly (or slowly) as anyone else and not be penalised by Blizard because I choose to play Prot.