Know Your Lore: Update on current Horde politics

Around this time last year, Know Your Lore did a series on the politics surrounding both Horde and Alliance, along with some predictions as to what was going to come to pass. Some theories were right, some were wrong -- but as far as the Horde is concerned, there has never been as tumultuous a time as right now in Cataclysm. While some of the conflict is out in the open, other signs of discontent are found in hidden away or in discreet areas, out of sight unless you're directly looking for them.
Garrosh Hellscream's reign as Warchief kicked off with a bang. The first few weeks of his rule as Warchief saw the destruction of Orgrimmar and its subsequent rebuilding as a result of the Shattering's devastation. In addition, the Horde found a new set of allies in the quirky, greedy, and often bizarre goblins, something that could be construed as either good or bad, depending on which way you look. On top of all of this, the duel with and subsequent death of Cairne Bloodhoof affected Garrosh deeply and caused him to create a closer alliance with the tauren race, giving them a special section of Orgrimmar in contrition for what happened.
Garrosh seems to have a somewhat level head on his shoulders and the best of intentions at heart, but a closer look reveals that the Horde is no longer as united a front as it was in the days of vanilla ... and some of that blame can be placed squarely on Hellscream's shoulders.
In last year's article regarding Cataclysm Horde politics, we discussed Vol'jin and his motives in regards to a piece released on the reclaiming of the Echo Isles, which stated, "But it won't be long before Vol'jin trusts you (the new troll player) with vital -- and potentially dangerous -- information about the political struggles plaguing the Horde and, ultimately, the fellow members of your tribe." We now know that the article was speaking of the argument between Garrosh and Vol'jin and the potential threat of the trolls leaving the Horde for good.
But after playing through the troll starting zone, players are treated to a scene in which Vol'jin speaks to Thrall directly about his choice and tells him of his fears for the Horde's future. Thrall clarifies his choice, the decisions behind it, and why he needs Vol'jin now more than ever:
Thrall: Vol'jin, I chose Garrosh because he has the strength to lead our people through these trying times. For all my supposed wisdom, there have been moments that I've barely been able to hold the Horde together. The Wrath Gate and Undercity displayed that clearly.For now. But the actions of Garrosh Hellscream have done little to gain Vol'jin's approval. Yes, the Darkspear were given an area of their own in Orgrimmar -- downstream from the obnoxious goblin allies and their polluted waters. And far, far away from the center of Orgrimmar, the heart of the city where the orc race reigns supreme.
The Horde cries for a hero of old. An orc of true blood that will bow to no human and bear no betrayal. A warrior that will make our people proud again. Garrosh can be that hero. I did not make this decision lightly. Vol'jin. I know our alliances will suffer for it. I know the Horde will be irreversibly changed. But I made this choice with confidence that Garrosh is exacty what the Horde needs. I'm trusting you and the other leaders to not let this divide our people. You are stronger than that.
Vol'jin: I understand, brotha. I will tink on this and be troublin' ya no furtha. You have a world to be savin'.
Thrall: Throm'ka old friend.
Vol'jin: Dese will not be easy times, but I be suspectin' we will be stayin' with tha Horde for the good of all. Thrall's words are true, as dey always be. The Horde is much more den a few old, stubborn leaders and a handful of heroes from Northrend. The people be cryin' Garrosh's name... at least for now.
One could say that at least Garrosh made the effort of extending a peaceful hand, but other events in Orgrimmar make one wonder why, exactly, Garrosh offered that helping hand. And the actions of other orcs in Orgrimmar lend themselves to the theory that for all his supposed "generosity," Garrosh doesn't really care about the non-orc races of the Horde, particularly the trolls.

This is made blatantly, absolutely clear by a series of quests. These aren't your normal run-around-the-world quests, nor quests with major cut scenes or spectacular rewards, but rather the quiet quests you complete every day and never really take note of -- but you should be.
In Orgrimmar, an orc named Marogg, infantry chef for the Horde army, hands out daily quests for cooking tokens. Most quests are fairly run of the mill; however, there are two that work hand-in-hand to illustrate the current frame of mind in Garrosh's Orgrimmar. The first, called Stealing From Our Own, begins with this text:
As you knowWhat this quest is saying is that Garrosh placed the trolls in the city specifically so that we would have easy access to their supplies, which we then steal and deliver for use to feed the orcish troops. This may seem like an innocent quest, but troll players who pick up Stealing From Our Own are not asked to steal from the trolls -- they are instead quietly directed to the goblin portion of Orgrimmar. After all, the goblins are brand new to the Horde and therefore rank on the low end of the totem pole., Garrosh has relegated the Trolls of Orgrimmar to the western outskirts of the city. Fortunately, that means that we have easy access to their supplies. I am working on a large batch of jambalaya for the infantry and I need as much rice as possible. Lucky for us, the Trolls keep it stored in barrels near their structures. Retrieve these barrels of Darkspear rice for me and I should be able to finish up.
What the goblins and trolls don't realize is that both of them are bottom of the barrel as far as Garrosh Hellscream is concerned, and they were placed deliberately on the edge of Orgrimmar not as a badge of any sort of honor but so that they were readily available to take advantage of. It's obvious that the trolls and goblins aren't completely unaware of this situation, however ...

We have had a problem with thieves stealing our infantry rations here in Orgrimmar for the last couple of weeks. I recently received some intelligence of where these crimes are taking place. Anywhere you see piles of crates and supplies, there are likely to be thieves nearby. I need you to hunt these thieves down and recover the stolen rations. Return to me when you are done.If players watch closely and take note, every thief you are sent to kill is either a troll or a goblin. These aren't thieves -- these are goblins and trolls trying to take back the supplies that the orcish contingent has stolen from them. And guess what we, the players, get to do? We kill the thieves. We kill the trolls and goblins that are simply after their rightful goods, which we have stolen in the name of the Horde.
The orcs have us slowly murdering our allies, and not one person has stepped up to point out the hypocrisy in these orders. We aren't killing thieves -- we are the thieves, and we are killing the owners that have come to take their property back. It doesn't exactly speak wonders for the mind of Hellscream or the minds of the orcs who follow his orders, does it?

Though the orcs, trolls, goblins, and tauren all have a rightful place in Orgrimmar, two races have been completely left out of any city plans: the blood elves and the forsaken. The forsaken are understandable, as it's made pretty clear in Silverpine that Garrosh has no love for the banshee queen, but the blood elves are simply missing altogether.
To perhaps compensate for the lack of an offical blood elf section of Orgrimmar, the blood elves have a small space beside Garrosh Hellscream in his chambers in the center of Orgrimmar. Two guards, three trainers, and an ambassador all take their places in Garrosh's chambers, where he can listen to their input in person.
Or is that really why they are there? Garrosh has made it blatantly clear that the only care he has for the human race is that they be exterminated as quickly as possible, along with their allies. The blood elves, for all their bravado about joining the Horde in their hour of darkness, were former allies of the races of the Alliance. They appear small, delicate, and share the same pink skin as the human race that Garrosh so abhors.
Are the blood elves present because Garrosh would like to listen to them, or are the blood elves present because Garrosh would like to make sure they don't slip back into the hands of the Alliance and betray the Horde? Or maybe, just maybe, the close ties between the forsaken and the blood elves are something that Garrosh would like to use in order to keep a closer eye on Sylvanas.
Speaking of Sylvanas, just what is the Banshee Queen up to, anyway? Her motives aren't really known, but her complete disgust with Garrosh Hellscream is made crystal clear to any player who steps into Silverpine and witnesses the heated exchange between Garrosh and Sylvanas as she introduces him to her new allies, the val'kyr. Sylvanas has some sort of ultimate plan, and it doesn't involve the Horde.
Players who continue through the Silverpine quests are treated to a view of Sylvanas that clearly shows her disdain for Garrosh and the Horde as it stands today. It's not just disdain -- Sylvanas willfully disobeys the orders Garrosh gives her. He tells her further use of the Forsaken Blight that decimated the Wrath Gate in Wrath of the Lich King is expressly forbidden, and Sylvanas promptly uses the blight anyway against the worgen. Later, it is revealed that Sylvanas' forsaken have drenched the former Alliance town of Southshore with the stuff, wiping out any trace of life and rendering the town uninhabitable until the plague has worn off.
The Forsaken Blight is essentially a reworking of the Plague of Undeath that was originally used to transform humans into the mindless Scourge soldiers of the Lich King. The fact that Sylvanas is using this plague, despite the events of the Wrathgate, clearly demonstrates that she holds no remorse over the destruction wreaked at the Wrathgate whatsoever. In fact, it's pretty evident that Sylvanas' only concern during that time was retaking the Undercity from Varimathras and the Royal Apothecary Society so that she could reclaim her place as ruler of the forsaken.
Yet despite the absence of Garrosh after that scene that played out at the beginning of the Undercity, despite his apparent ignorance of the events in Hillsbrad and Sylvanas' insolence, it is clear to anyone that takes a closer look at Garrosh's room in Orgrimmar that Sylvanas is not committing these errors under Garrosh's nose.

Cataclysm holds the unique distinction of being the first Warcraft expansion to be told in a way that progresses the story as time goes on. Upcoming patches not only release new content but further the story of the expansion with every new dungeon and every new raid instance given to players to surmount. In patch 4.1, we will see Vol'jin and the trolls quietly ask for players' help to address the issue of the Zandalari. In Orgrimmar, the quest giver who starts the chain of events in regards to patch 4.1 is not in Grommash Hold; she's out in the troll district, far from the eyes of Hellscream.
In patch 4.2, the Firelands raid will be introduced, along with a Hyjal that has continued to experience regrowth as a result of player effort in the zone. The story of Hyjal will progress with new dailies and an undoubtedly new story that continues the tale where we left off at level 82. The introduction of Ragnaros and the bosses in the Firelands raid will be directly related to stories that were introduced at the beginning of Cataclysm.

And as for Garrosh ... his reign as Warchief has been anything but smooth sailing. Though it hasn't been blatantly rubbed in our faces, all the little pieces in Orgrimmar point to a warchief who clearly has no idea how to be a diplomat and clearly has little regard for the other races in the Horde. It's disheartening to watch right now, but the stories in Hillsbrad, the stories in Durotar, the quiet stories that happen under our noses in Orgrimmar are all going to be addressed, in time -- it's just a question of when.
For more information on related subjects, please look at these other Know Your Lore entries:
- Current Horde Politics: Orcs, Blood Elves, Forsaken, Tauren, and Trolls
- Cataclysm Horde Politics
- Garrosh Hellscream, part one and two
- Sylvanas Windrunner, part one and two
While you don't need to have played the previous Warcraft games to enjoy World of Warcraft, a little history goes a long way toward making the game a lot more fun. Dig into even more of the lore and history behind the World of Warcraft in WoW Insider's Guide to Warcraft Lore.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 8)
pantear Apr 17th 2011 8:19PM
Zul'jin would never go to the Alliance! Never! Especially since he's dead. :P
(It's Vol'jin who sends a troll to the Alliance.)
Lemons Apr 17th 2011 8:20PM
"the Alliance doesn't have a dog in this hunt"
Yes we do...a unified troll nation would be bad for the Horde and the Alliance.
KLRMNKY Apr 17th 2011 10:21PM
"Yes we do...a unified troll nation would be bad for the Horde and the Alliance."
Not really...
Where is ZA? Right smack dab in the middle of the Ghostlands, which is right smack dab in the middle of Horde/Blood Elf territory.
Where is ZG? Far to the south of the Stormwind, with two entire zones between them and one of the capitals of the Alliance.
The trolls are much more of a threat to the Horde since they are literally on the doorstep of one of their allies. If the ZA march on Silvermoon, that would take out one faction of the Horde and weaken their hold on the upper kingdom. Sylvanas will be forced to move as many of her Forsaken there to protect her former homeland, which will force Garrosh to either reinforce her with Horde troops, or be forced to give up land for time as the Alliance would be in the position to reclaim large parts of Lordaron...
So from the Alliance perspective, it's a win/win.
Daedalus Apr 18th 2011 10:32AM
That only works if you ignore the hundreds of years the various alliance nations spent fighting against the trolls to push them back to ZA and ZG in the first place. Hell, that was the start of the alliance as we know it: various human nations, joining with the elves to combat their ancient foes, the trollls.
It would be incredibly short-sighted for the alliance to ignore any attempt to recreate the troll empire that gave them so much trouble in the past. Now; that's not saying they won't be short-sighted and do it, but I have to think there are at least some people in the alliance who remember history, and are not anxious to repeat it.
truth&light Apr 17th 2011 8:12PM
I suggest all read this quest if you havnt done it already. i dont believe anyone will put an end to sylvanas, but she is heading down a path of darkness that i believe will perhaps lead to nothing more then pure evil.
Arthas said to her many times ''you will serve me in undeath'' arthas maybe dead, but shes going the exact direction the lich king would have wanted.
http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27531
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 8:26PM
I agree. This is what I've been arguing since, pretty much before Arthas fell.
Thanks for sharing.
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 10:57PM
Once again, this is NOT the link I was meaning to comment on or be involved in, IN any WAY!
/sigh. I suck. ;)
Eldoron Apr 17th 2011 8:16PM
Sometimes, I love to be Alliance.
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 8:47PM
;) Only sometimes? Come aahh... Comaahhh..... ;)
Murdertime Apr 17th 2011 9:20PM
Counterpoint: Gnomes.
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 9:24PM
LOL
Noyou Apr 17th 2011 9:54PM
Gnomes too cool for you? Or you don't like playing a race 90% of both factions look down upon, literally and figuratively? Mekkatorque is my 2nd favorite leader behind Magni.
Sports72Xtrm Apr 17th 2011 8:28PM
http://woweh.com/?p=935
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 8:36PM
I totally thought of that comic. ;)
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 11:43PM
Evidently - my advocacy is not a boon! ;D
Dreyja Apr 18th 2011 12:17PM
I realize I was double-posting up a storm but I was just really tired guys. I wasn't trying to be an ass. /sigh
Sorry
Kilznah Apr 17th 2011 8:39PM
The forsaken are still using the blight? I remember it being mentioned that southshore was nuked by the blight, but most of the undead starting areas have you collecting reagents for a new blight since Gorrosh forbid its use. In fact I recall that in Gilneas, when the forsaken armies attack for a second time, they were using blight so diluted that it could not kill the worgen (which lead to the redeath of many of my undead pals. Good thing I am a priest =D).
Besides in Northrend and Gilneas (during the first attack) I have not seen blight used in game, but I do not see this as an olive branch between Sylvanas and Gorrosh. Rather I think she has lost interest in plague in her obsession with val'kyr.
Murdertime Apr 17th 2011 8:47PM
The interesting thing is the big split in game for the forsaken isn't over the morality of what Sylvanas is doing, because they're pretty okay with the whole Death To Anyone That Screws With Us (Cause, hey, the South Shore/Tarren Mill war is now in Lore) thing but rather between those advocating the Valkyr method of creating more forsaken and those advocating the the aborted plague method of making more Forsaken.
Dreyja Apr 17th 2011 8:56PM
You're likely right there. ;) Alas
Kurtis Apr 17th 2011 8:59PM
"The orcs have us slowly murdering our allies, and not one person has stepped up to point out the hypocrisy in these orders."
None of my toons do either of these dailies, for the exact reasons specified. Well, my undead warlock probably would, if he were in Orgrimmar instead of Tarren Mill.