Gold Capped: 5 addons for profitable buying, selling and crafting

You can make gold in World of Warcraft without addons. You can also PvP and raid without addons; however, for the vast majority of people, that would result in lower performance. Unlike PvP and raiding, however, there is absolutely no way to use the default UI to be as productive in the auction house as you would be with addons. The default Blizzard UI for professions and the AH was not built for making money.
I divide gold addon users into two groups: the people who want everything to be as efficient and streamlined as possible, and the people who simply want to be able to do basic tasks without as much hassle as the default UI imposes on us. Let's call them "power auctioneers" and "retail auctioneers." What addons are available now, and how can you use them to accomplish your goals?
1. Auctioneer
The very first addon people think about when they think of making money on the AH is Auctioneer. This addon is a complete replacement for your AH UI, and it has an absolute ton of features. I remember setting it up the first time I decided to try my hand at gold making; it was one of the most complicated addons I'd ever seen. It felt like 90% of the things I could fiddle with in the options weren't connected to what I was trying to do, but I kept working through it hoping I'd find what I was looking for. In the end, I settled for preventing it from directly causing me to lose money and assumed that I was missing out on some serious profits because I wasn't able to set Auctioneer up properly.
I've since learned where all the actually useful options are located and how to use them, but I've already on to other addons that provide the same options with less bloat. Auctioneer is a powerful tool, but it suffers from the kind of bloat you get when you put a bunch of programmers into a room and let them run wild. It's still got some features that aren't executed as well by competitors (their snatch list for buying comes to mind), but it doesn't have enough compelling features that I'd recommend it to people getting started.
2. Auctionator
Auctionator is an addon that I wish I had had available when I started. It has a pretty intuitive, simple buy and sell interface, and (most importantly) it groups all similar auctions together. You can see at a glimpse how many items are posted at what price and stack size, to base your buying and selling decisions on that. It also natively supports saved searches with categories. In short, it does everything the default UI should do. Both power users and retail auctioneers can benefit from it, as it's simple enough for anyone to use and powerful enough that everyone should. Don't subject yourself to the default buying interface any longer than you have to.
It's not perfect, though. In my opinion, Auctionator could put the final nail in the coffin of Auctioneer if it'd replicate the snatch list, allowing people to create systematic buying schemes that can help save time for serious buyers. Still, what it does it does well.
3. TradeSkillMaster
I've talked about TradeSkillMaster a lot lately and written a few guides to get you started if you're interested in learning it. TSM is not a simple addon and by no means a simpler solution to simple crafting and selling, but if you find yourself buying, crafting, and selling the same things again and again, using it will save you time.
Understand the limitations of this addon, though. It's not designed to make crafting or selling easier the first time. It is not a complete solution, and you need to be able to buy, sell, and craft outside the algorithmic setup you've created in TSM to remain agile and competitive.
4. Advanced Trade Skill Window
ATSW is a replacement for the default profession interface. It supports a queue, it's twice as wide and much easier to read, and it allows you to build a custom interface precisely how you want it. It's fairly user-friendly out of the box and supports a lot of customization. This makes it a winner, in my book.
It's particularly good at queuing, by the way. If you tell it to make something that has subcomponents you have to craft, it will queue them up for you. TSM only started doing that at the last release. It supports auto-buying of vendor mats and is basically like the crafting arm of TSM, only without all the other complexities added to it.
My only criticism of ATSW is that since Blizzard made the default profession UI actually usable in patch 4.0, the only value add features is has are also done by other addons like TSM. It'll always have a niche market of people who don't want to learn a tool like TSM but want craft queuing. The rare times I've needed to go outside TSM's automation to craft things, I've found the default UI good enough. If I have to do something enough that I'd need a queue, I add it to TSM.
5. LilSparky's Workshop
LSW is an addon that puts auction prices next to items you can craft in your profession window, as well as the cost to craft them. It's supported with ATSW, so you can use them together. It's not needed if you use TSM, since this is a baseline feature of that addon -- but again, if you're not going to use it and still want the information put together nicely, this'll do it. It also works with the default profession window.
Lil Sparky also has another project he's working on called Gnomeworks, but it's still in a semi-working beta state.
Clear as mud
Addons don't need to be complex to work. Whether you go whole hog and set up something like TSM, or keep it simple and just your UI so that it works the way the basic interface should, you will benefit by installing them.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Dragonrose Apr 18th 2011 10:43AM
I use two addons you haven't mentioned here: Skillet and AuctionLite.
Overall, my setup is Skillet for the normal window with LSW for pricing (I don't like ATSW), TSM for the serious crafting and posting, AuctionLite for quick buying and posting non-auction-group thingies and MailOpener to open my mails since I don't use TSM auto-mailing feature and it creates a weird bug where the "new mail" icon never goes away.
And this serves me well, considering I'm running with no crafter alts and a main with Tailoring and Engineering. Masochism much? ; D
Anyway, what I find is that TSM wants me to buy bolts off the AH when I can craft them (and thigies for engineering). You said that in the latest release it supports component queuing but I keep it updated through the Curse client and mine doesn't do that, I have to do it manually in Skillet. Am I missing something?
Anyway, I'd love to see you make an article about addon synergy.
Amaxe Apr 18th 2011 4:06PM
I'll second the use of AuctionLite and Skillet.
ATSW just seems too bloated and buggy anymore for me.
francis2557 Apr 18th 2011 5:04PM
Skillet was maintained by littlesparkey, but it's pretty much tied together with duct tape now as far as I know. Gnomeworks, which was linked to in the article, is the full replacement he's built and I've used it since alpha. A lot of the major kinks are worked out, and it certainly causes far fewer problems for me than Skillet did at the end.
Dragonrose Apr 18th 2011 7:29PM
I did actually try Gnomeworks when it was released and frankly I much prefer the LSW + Skillet combo. The only issues I have with it is that it sometimes miscalculates the materials required for a certain queue. Perhaps in future releases Gnomewirks will becomes the superior addon for me, but until then, I'm happy.
Orkchop Apr 18th 2011 7:41PM
I have to second (or third) AuctionLite. It just seems so much easier and more light weight then even Auctionator. It does list each auction as a separate line, but you can shift-click and Buyout and it will buy them all. Which to me is a little faster and feels more precise. Plus it helps me realize just how much ore I'm buying to prospect.
The sell tab is the my favorite part though. Quick, easy to use and shows the current market prices.
Traazu Apr 18th 2011 10:56AM
I am just about ready to move from Auctioneer to Auctionator, but have a question. Are the DBs compatible or by moving to Auctionator will I be starting over, data wise?
Talia Apr 18th 2011 8:05PM
I recently made the same switch, and you'll be starting over.
It's not as bad as you think, though, because Auctionator doesn't do long-term "market average" prices like Auctioneer does, so you don't have to rebuild a large database. Its defense is that long-term averages take too much to influence and are too shrouded in mystery (exactly what calculations are being used and which outliers are being cut out???). Also, if you want to sell an item, your main concern is what it's going for *now*, not what it's historically been worth (though I like to see if values have plummeted temporarily and I should wait it out). It will save a few days' worth of values which you can view in an item's "history" tab, to catch trends and short-term fluctuations.
Also, if you try to run the two simultaneously, the scans get funny. Hitting Auctionator's "Full scan..." button initiates scans in both addons, but the Auctioneer one takes over, and Auctionator's won't complete properly. But they don't share the resulting data, so your Auctionator usage experience won't be what it could be.
tbutton Apr 18th 2011 10:50AM
okay, so you talked me into trying trade skill master, and it's made glyphs so much easier. The main problem I'm having is that I'm also using it for potions, and it keeps trying to sell my actual potions that I need for, you know, drinking. Is there some way to tell it to leave 20 items in the bag? presently I'm just going in and cancelling the stuff I want to keep afterwards if I get click-happy, but that's clumsy. Should I just give in and get myself an auction alt? speaking of which, have you ever written anything on efficient alt-usage?
cente Apr 18th 2011 4:06PM
Cente from TSM here.. it's in the works as soon as we can find some time :-) If you know any programmers send em our way!
joshua.l.miles Apr 18th 2011 5:38PM
I was running into the same problem so I ended up getting a few "auctioning bags" to trade out with the bag I keep my pots in when its time to surf the AH, only problem I have run into with TSM is the mail module causing my "New Mail" icon to not stay gone.
quickshiv Apr 18th 2011 5:39PM
I would highly recommend using an AH alt unless you're all full up. I know on all the alts I play I have several sets of gear and extra items that just get in the way of bag management. In fact get yourself your own AH guild. Even if you don't use it for storage it is a great place to keep your cash. I know it seems silly at first to keep your gold in a guild bank but the first time you accidentally click buy on something for more gold then you have on hand you will be happy.
Xavi Apr 18th 2011 10:56AM
I remember installing Auctioneer around 1 year ago, simply out of curiosity (and a drop of boredom). I got instantly overwhelmed and uninstalled it that same evening. Since then I had a chronic fear to AH addons. It's worth to mention that I was not in "desperate" need of gold, back then.
A few months ago I found myself crafting dozens of gems per day to raise some money for the Vial of Sands, so I went back to the AH category of Curse.... Auctioneer? NOTHANKS. So I gave it a try to the 2nd most popular, Auctionator and I cannot stop recommending it to my friends. As you said, utility is a very important, if not the most important factor of an interface.
Cheers for the nice review, and thanks for sharing your little secrets.
Keep them coming!
Pyromelter Apr 18th 2011 5:09PM
I think basil has it right. There are "power auctioneers" and "retail auctioneers."
He didn't draw the line between which addons each type of auctioneer uses, so let me do it for you:
Auctionator + Lil Sparky's Workship = retail auctioneer
Auctioneer + TSM +/or ATSW = power auctioneer.
I'm not sure if ATSW works with lil sparky's, but if you have lil sparky's, it really works well enough in the default tradeskill UI that you don't need ATSW.
I've sung the praises of Auctionator many times, and I'll do it again. It is the easiest and simplest auction UI I've ever seen in an MMO. Blizzard would do well to hire the author of Auctionator and pay that man his money to completely trash the current default UI, and implement Auctionator's UI as the default AH UI.
Talia Apr 18th 2011 8:14PM
"I'm not sure if ATSW works with lil sparky's"
It does, I use both. (Basil noted it in the article, too. :) )
Valana Apr 18th 2011 4:08PM
I'm in the same boat as Basil. I used Auctioneer for years, and I really wish I had known about Auctionator earlier. Auctioneer is unwieldy and slow (eg. the AH scan does not use the API call that downloads the entire AH listing, but rather scans each page individually), as well as incredibly complex/lengthy to setup and configure.
To top it all off, it doesn't do basic things properly (if I just want to undercut the current lowest auction by a set amount, I need the standard deviation module, which sometimes bugs out because it doesn't have enough data, etc.).
Quitting WoW and coming back a year later, only to spend another 2 days configuring Auctioneer, was a complete nightmare.
Then I heard about Auctionator. It took 5 minutes to setup, and did everything I needed perfectly, without bugs, much faster, much more easily, and just plain BETTER than Auctioneer, with only minimal configuration.
I don't know how any software developer can have such a poor grasp on usability design.
Basil Berntsen Apr 18th 2011 5:53PM
Auctioneer can be made to do that- just ensure you have the right version, and click the blue fast forward button next to the scan button.
wutsconflag Apr 18th 2011 6:36PM
I'm pretty sure that Auctioneer does, in fact, have a "Get All" download for the auction house now.
jarch3r Apr 18th 2011 4:09PM
I used ATSW for a while, but whenever I would try to load it, it would lag my interface and occasionally crash the wow client altogether.
I stopped using it and moved to using Skillet. Loved it as well, but it would throw errors and prevent certain actions, like placing a flag in a raid.
When removing either addon, their associated problems went away completely. It's definitely not a hardware (or lack of) issue. Friends verified that these addons also caused them issues.
I would love to find a trade skill window that works well without causing problems, but eh. I do use Auctionator and LilSparkys and they both work exceedingly well.
quickshiv Apr 18th 2011 5:44PM
I've had problems with buggy or outdated trade addons in the past. I do have to say TSM is amazingly bug free for what it does. The TSM devs have done a great job making a quality product. That being said the absolute best way to combat this problem is to have two wow installations. I hate mixing my trade addons with my pvp/pve addons so I just copied my wow installation to another directory and deleted all the addons I didn't want in my trade setup then installed all my trade addons to the 2nd installation.
Duodeni Apr 18th 2011 4:37PM
I have a fear of Auctioneer for its over-complex system. I downloaded Auctionator and I already love it!