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4-20-2011 @ 11:33AM
My main is currently prot/holy and I stepped into my first heroic last night. Aside from the fact that it was already in progress, I had no idea what the bosses were going to do. Going in blind = instant stress for me.I took some time over the weekend to gear one of my DPS alts enough so that I could run him in some heroic randoms to see what the bosses did and whatnot. I thought it was a good step to help me see the content. Of course, I'll see only a couple with queue length and runs taking what they do.In Wrath, I stepped into Heroics in (mostly) blues on another paladin, and had only tiny issues with healing. My tank (RL/GM of my guild) knew the instances, and as soon as I discovered the boss fights didn't really deviate from their normal counterparts, I was already aware of what to expect. In Cata, I don't really have that preparation. I kid you not--I have a spreadsheet on my PC of mob kill orders for trash packs and notes about each of the bosses for when I was learning the content on normal. I can do the normals in my sleep now--and I'm always ready to recover should someone not CC or decide to attack a different target than the one I marked skull on. I should update it for Heroics, but honestly, I play to have "fun"--I already have spreadsheets tracking a ton of stuff for WoW--I spend my days in spreadsheets for work--my husband is tired of it spilling over into WoW. One could say "Oh, all I need to worry about is bosses," and that's true--but I sometimes like to remember who's a caster, who's not going to move when I pull, etc. I can try and prepare by watching boss fight videos on TankSpot, but then I've got to do the for ALL the instances, and then hope I've remembered everything so I can do the run well.The healers just need to know to heal, the DPS needs to know (hopefully) to interrupt, CC, and how to control their threat. I'm expected to execute a smooth and quick dungeon run. I feel BAD when something goes wrong--maybe outside of my control, but I don't like to screw up. And as it's been pointed out, when something goes wrong, the tank is the first one blamed.Starting my evening with a failed LFD Heroic set the mood for the evening. I brooded over it while I cooked dinner, replaying all that happened in my head. I swore off ever tanking a random heroic again. Then I moaned about how I suck at Ret and that my only options are to either tank or heal, and that most tanks don't use CDs to avoid damage and that my healing gear wasn't on par with my tanking gear. It went on and on. On top of all that, my husband felt bad because he was the one who wanted to run a heroic.The night got progressively worse in LFD. I jumped onto my priest (lvl 84) and healed my husband through a random normal, only to spend most of the instance drinking because spell coefficients are such a mess for priests from 83 to 84--my mana pool was going to hell in an instance I used to heal without a single drink. I went through almost a full stack of water last night in VP. After being frustrated there, I swapped to an alt druid who hasn't done anything in Cata and agreed to heal through another random (haven't done druid healing yet--healed as a pally, priest, and shaman so far).The run starts out with the mage doing the "gogogo" thing, the shaman has no clue how to play his class (we're talking maybe 10% of the damage for the whole instance), but they are both demanding that we run as fast as possible. The mage and shaman didn't want to DPS the marked targets, were pulling for the tank, etc. We ended up kicking the mage for being a complete and total jerk (sorry, don't care how epic you thought you were in Wrath). Not a single person for the rest of the ToTT run could assist off the tank. No one could follow instructions. I swear the Shaman had Tourettes for the rants he went off when he'd die (I can't heal stupid). The DK we got to replace the mage zones in and says "Go." For real?The instance only got worse on the final fight where no one knew to DPS the squid and people died because of the debuff...I called it after that. It wasn't worth the hassle. I've found that the best night in LFD is Friday nights--everyone's fun to talk to and usually much more easygoing.When I went to sleep last night, I commented to my husband "I figured it out. The fail in LFD was there tonight because they weren't in a raid."The community in WoW sucks now. I would love to see LFD go server side. I'm just probably not going to tank because I don't have time for the learning curve and I don't have the guildies to learn with (only 3 of us have a character at max level, and only 2 of us are geared for heroics) as I don't like to put PuGs through my learning experiences.If I was a new player and my night was what I saw of the WoW community, it would take a whole hell of a lot to get me back into LFD again. The only thing I walked away with last night was that I need to find some more like-minded guild members who are content with some Heroics and then I'll completely step away from LFD. At this point, nothing will make me tank for a bunch of random jerks.I'd love to see the Favorites/Ignore list for LFD. I'd love to be able to add my friends from other realms to my list so I could get them in a random if they were online and in the queue. Or that super great healer or really aware DPS.We have no WoW community. Realms are nothing more than a way to set an economy and control the player base into a manageable size. I see guilds with their lvl 25 mounts and I have no clue who they are. I sign on, quest, queue up for randoms, or work on crafting. There's been no need for me to watch General, Trade, Local Defense, LFG, or Guild Recruitment. Trade's been off since Wrath to avoid the 4Chan/[Anal]/360 crap that made trade basically impossible to happen.Each day I get driven a little closer to the edge of calling it quits. I've been playing since Vanilla--I've had fun! I loved the community in BC and watched it errode in Wrath. Now...well, it's interesting to say the least./Sorry for the long post, just a lot on my mind on the subject of LFD and WoW as a whole.
4-20-2011 @ 12:28PM
Wow, you actually care enough to figure things out with a spreadsheet? If you could list your resume with information like this, I'll bet people would PAY you to tank for them on your server. Tanks who care about mechanics and research fights as if they were a raid, which is really what you need in Cata now, are not common. I walked away from tanking for a while because I had convinced myself that I sucked. The only thing that gave me back my mojo was running with guild groups who had a clue. I wonder how many budding star tanks, people who feel bad when things go wrong, are going to continue to be ruined by being paired with jerks.
4-20-2011 @ 1:03PM
@KhazKhal - My WoW spreadsheet collection is crazy, lol! I had a spreadsheet in Wrath that I shared with guildies for Rep Grinds. Every daily, the amount of Rep it supplied, and a way to track your completed dailies on a daily basis. I haven't updated it for Cata yet, but it's still out there. I have a spreadsheet of all my alts (I play at least one of every class), and who they are paired up with for leveling so that I can make sure that squishies either have a tank or a healer with them at all times. I have gear spreadsheets so that I know how many JP I'm targeting for my next upgrade. I have a breakout of recommended rotations for my DPS, Gemming expectations, talent specs, stat priorities...This doesn't mention the spreadsheets I've collected since BC which helped me compute Hunter DPS (before it became an online available tool), or determine mitigation on gear to determine if it would be better for my avoidance tanking set (thanks CTC Stat Calculator spreadsheet from Rhidach!).Let me preface this with the fact that my job is heavy on data analysis. I spend probably 85% of my day in a spreadsheet. The other 15% is spent on the phone working through customer/team issues. Excel and PowerPoint are my two favorite tools and if I could do PPTs for raid preparation, I would. It's really a disease for me!I got conditioned to research fights from raiding. I always wanted to know what the boss/trash would do. If there was a priority for killing trash due to something that couldn't be interrupted or if there was a mob that needed to be CC'd. I wanted to know if someone was a healer, someone did a conal attack, etc. I've always felt that if I'm the tank, I should know these things to reduce the stress on the healer.I really hope I can find some guildies who want to run content and play regularly. LFD on normals is fine because I'm in control and familiar. LFD in heroics makes me want to throw myself on a sword. The sooner I can get some guild members who want to/can run heroics the quicker I'll be out of LFD. I've decided the rep grinds I'm working on are fine in normals.
4-20-2011 @ 3:57PM
@MiriWow! You're definitely dedicated to your craft, and as a fellow tank, I applaud your dedication! I've never considered keeping a spread sheet because I just remember the trash pulls.One great method I have is to target each mob in a trash pack and notice if it has a mana bar. If it does have a mana bar, it gets a skull. 2 mobs with mana bars? Skull and X. Just have to make sure to keep X interrupted/stunned as much as possible while dps burns down skull. I'll usually mark a random mob for CC, but I don't trust DPS enough to CC a caster. I'd prefer to know that it's casting at me, and take appropriate action, rather than have to guess if the CC will be cast/broken/re-cast etc.This method of killing casters first works great for me. I've used this strat since Vanilla. Some people like to CC casters and take out the bruisers first, but LFD DPS CC is unreliable at best.Keep up the good work as a tank! Hopefully some of your guildmates will hit max level soon and be available to run dungeons with you.
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