Gold Capped: Buy low, sell high

Everyone who gets into the auction house to make tons of gold immediately assumes that it's done by buying low and selling high. Seems simple enough, and it's one of those chestnuts that we've all heard Wall Street types talking about. Brokerage takes no trade skills, no addons, and it feels like making money from nothing.
A lot of what I've written about for this column has focused on how to use trade skills for profit, but the truth is that brokerage really can be a profitable use of your time. It's not as easy as it sounds, but assuming you have a solid understanding of what you're doing, you can use it to good effect.
Lesson 1: Know your product
I can't overstate how important it is to know what it is that you're buying and selling. If you don't have a sense for the demand of an item, don't touch it. If you don't know where it comes from, don't touch it. Back when 500g was a big deal for me, I bought a 500g pet because Auctioneer told me it was worth at least 1,000g. I tried to sell it for months before I gave in and used it. People kept posting new ones for less than I had bought mine, and even they were having to list it for days before selling it.
On the other hand, in Wrath of the Lich King, I was able to make consistent income buying and selling jewelcrafting leveling mats. I bought tons of those mats when I was leveling my JC, and I paid dearly for them. As soon as the price went below a certain level, I'd buy it all up and relist it for just a little less than I remembered paying for them.
Lesson 2: Understand demand
What precisely does a term like "heavy demand" mean? We all know that more demand means higher prices as more and more of the cheap stock gets bought out, but there are a few things that are hidden beneath the covers of this concept.
You can have an item that will sell a normal amount at its normal price, but if you were to post a bunch of stock at half the normal price, it would disappear immediately. Alternately, posting at double the normal price would normally not result in any regular sales but could yield occasional sales. The demand for an item depends on its price and can be measured in how long it takes to find a buyer at that price.
Something like the ultra-rare vanity items that drop off the Lich King the first time you have a Shadowmourne wielder in the group is going to have some very sporadic demand. More often then not, there's nobody with the hundreds of thousands of gold one of these cost who is searching for the item. Every time someone with the available cash does search for it, he's going to make a decision based on the price. I got my hands on one of these for what I felt was low enough to justify the risk and simply "stored it on the auction house" for a couple of weeks -- and lo and behold, it sold for a 30% profit. If I had listed it for more than I did, it may have taken longer to sell or never sold at all.
Your profit margin (or "spread") is going to depend mostly on how long you're willing to wait for your item to sell. If you list your items for more than they generally sell for, they will take a longer time to sell as people undercut you. Assuming you're willing to wait for that perfect storm when there are buyers for your stock and everyone else is out, you can sell high just by waiting.
In my above example of jewelcrafting leveling mats, the demand for them at 20% more than market value would spike every week or so when several people were pushing through the same JC skillups. I knew I could count on them buying a lot of mats each, so I wouldn't lower my prices between these spikes.
Buying low is also a profit
Of course, if Blizzard decides to change the drop rates for whatever you're brokering, you could very well lose your investment if the market price never gets back up to your target. One way to increase turnover (which would reduce your exposure to random acts of Blizzard) is to work as hard on buying low as you do on selling high. I'm going to "borrow" an expression from a good friend of mine: "Buy low, sell normal."
Having secured a good price on something means that you can sell it as quickly as someone who makes or farms the item and still get a profit. If you want a high turnover, that's precisely what you should do. This is commonly spoken of as looking for undervalued goods.
The more volume you find under market value, the more profits you can make. If the market value is going up over time (as many items are, in this inflation-happy Cataclysm market), you may have trouble securing stock below market, but that just means you need to reevaluate your market value.
Of course, the people who can best buy low are the ones who see a lot of auctions, and that takes a lot of time. Camping the AH is basically the only way to increase your volume or decrease your price, and this will remain the case until Blizzard lets us buy while offline, just like we can sell while offline.
The farmables market
What if the cheap stock overwhelms you? Market prices are tending up, but if something can be farmed, buying "underpriced" auctions might be doing nothing but convincing more people to spend more time farming (or crafting/disenchanting/milling). Farmers are as motivated by volume as they are by high prices, and for that reason, if something is really easy to farm, it generally makes a bad item to broker. Not all farmables are unusable, but you can't do it in any volume without attracting the attention of a farmer who might mistake your buying enthusiasm for real demand.
Never forget that even though you're matching all the buying you do with an equal amount of selling, you're still going to have an effect on the market when you buy.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Verine Apr 28th 2011 2:13PM
Do darkmoon cards get created at different rates (more Aces, fewer 5s)? For some reason on my server, most will we in the 800-1500 G range and you'll have one (and only one) 5 of the Winds at 4k.
Vladpr Apr 28th 2011 2:26PM
As I understand it, it's a completely random card that's created. In your case, supply and demand affects the price as when there are a lot of a specific card, the price will drop as sellers try to sell theirs. When there's only one specific card, then the price may rise as there is no competition and people NEED it to complete their deck.
I personally always wait, even when I only need one more card to complete a deck, for when another sellers creates the card I need and the price drops below 1K. That's how I have created all my decks, and have bought all the cards. I have only created like 5 decks though. 2 to sell and 3 for myself.
The Dewd Apr 28th 2011 3:41PM
Chasing that "last" card is probably a logical fallacy that I don't know the name of. If there's an equal chance for each of 8x4=32 cards, there is a 25% chance that you'll get a card from the deck you want to make. Once you have one of those eight cards, the chance goes down because of the potential for duplicates. Even if you're willing to make as many decks as you can and aren't focusing on a single deck, every duplicate has to be traded or AHed. Plus, once you have seven cards from a single deck, you only have a 1/32 chance of getting the actual card you want. Throw in WoW's finicky RNG and you're in for a stressful time if you don't hit up the AH or tradechat.
Bart Apr 28th 2011 2:20PM
I've tried buying a load of Volatile Airs at under 17g then reselling as 17g. Particulary during raid hours when people need mats.
Legs Apr 28th 2011 2:27PM
I haven't analyzed my BeanCounter output in a long while, but I probably make ~50% of my gross profits on resales. I scan the AH with auctioneer once or twice a day and spend 2 minutes in the "Resale" search output (I can't recall my exact settings in there, but I definitely tweaked them a bit from default).
As stated, I absolutely do NOT buy everything that resale lists, and as stated, I try to only sell things that I know will have a market. I do quite well selling level 10-70 blues, and buying and reselling profession mats (though almost always it's levelling mats that I get rather than max level ones).
I try to make my AH play as time efficient as possible, so I have always avoided crafting stuff (except for the odd thing that I see has a high profit margin), and I find the buy low sell normal/high works great for me and using auctioneer takes barely any time at all.
The best turnaround I can recall was getting a 359 purple chest (I can't recall which one!) early in cata for ~2k on a bid and then selling it for 21k. I actually went back to beancounter to get the seller's name and sent him part of the profit cause I felt guilty!
Sky Apr 28th 2011 2:30PM
Just to add to the concepts in this article, buying and reselling or "flipping" goods has a certain risk (where risk is simply the variance of profits) attached to it. If you want to try this out and see if you can make more money here than in professions then I would suggest trying the low risk goods first before trying to hit the jackpot with big ticket items.
Low risk = ores, herbs, skins, enchanting mats, uncut gems
Medium risk = flasks, cut gems, enchants, belt buckles, spellthreads, embossments, maelstrom crystals
high risk = BOE epics, pets, mounts
Also, I cannot stress step 1: Know your product enough. Looking at the Auctioneer average price is not enough. I know people who will employ a pump and dump strategy to artificially inflate the price so their posted goods will look "cheap" (below average price). The best way to avoid falling for this would be to specialize in a specific item/group of items in the market and sticking to those.
Calilla Apr 28th 2011 2:43PM
I don't make tons of gold this way, but I always have a 'decent' mount of gold I use to buy boe weapons and armor for my chars, flying skills, or even mounts, it's just now a way of living, and yes, sometimes drop rate changes kill you, like Tankard O'Terror as best example, and now lvl 80 Darkmoon Cards.
There are also some other things that are goldmines =D
Solanti Apr 28th 2011 2:45PM
I remember in ICC days spotting a 264 BoE for a measly 5k. I grabbed it and gleefully relisted it at 10k (similar to other ICC BoEs at the time). It sold virtually immediately! I still had the AH open and lo and behold it was relisted by my buyer for 20k. Within 30 minutes it had sold, presumably to be worn as I didn't see it again.
Deshishi Apr 28th 2011 3:15PM
Read the part that's written in Italic:
"Every week, WoW Insider brings you Gold Capped, in which Basil "Euripides" Berntsen aims to show you how to make money on the auction house. Email Basil with your questions, comments, or hate mail!"
I'm not a person that makes thousands of gold off the AH either, but if you master it, you will never run out of gold. It's simply the best way to make alot of gold.
Therefore, Basil keeps writing these. If you don't like this column, there are plenty of other sites you could check out.
fmm Apr 28th 2011 3:16PM
Well, thanks to those people we make tons of money :p
xiani Apr 28th 2011 3:34PM
There's another similar tactic, BID low, and sell normal (or indeed high if you can get away with it).
I seem to see a lot of stuff that doesn't have a buyout price at all, and an insanely low bid reserve. If you can find auctions with only a few hours left that are way below market price then stick in an optimistic bid, worst that can happens is you get your money back!
Basil Berntsen Apr 28th 2011 3:34PM
"Seriously, who cares that you can make money by using the AH. You can make money by grinding dungeons 24 hours a day as a tank, doesn't mean to say it's much fun."
Can't argue with that logic.
jabberwoxy Apr 28th 2011 3:34PM
Another handy trick i've used to my advantage from time to time, when buying in bulk from the AH is to leave 2 posts of the undervalued goods in the AH instead of buying all the stock at once. Maybe some other enterprising individual will notice and snap them up, but i've had good luck with the next farmer coming to post and then undercutting those 2 posts i didn't buy, leaving another bulk batch of stock for me to pick up at a even more undervalued price.
Basil Berntsen Apr 28th 2011 3:42PM
I have a group in my TSM setup called "bait" :)
Jamie Apr 28th 2011 3:37PM
I had an interesting situation on my server last weekend. I was looking for volatiles to burn into dreamcloth and came across the AH was completly empty of AIR. I panaiced and annoced it in trade. Someone placed 17 individuals at around 23g. I bought them all out and instead of using them I immediatly placed them back on AH for 30g. sure enough 10 of them sold and finally more people posted more stock and it came down under 23g and I cancelled my other AHs since they will never sell and I needed to burn them anyway and finished buying the rest of my airs. Not sure if that was a win but it was fun either way. I was willing to pay 23g each for use anyway but then getting something back for them and then buying the rest I needed for under 23g was a win for me.
Eirik Apr 29th 2011 3:36PM
For me, the primary skill of tailoring, and thus the primary use of Dreamcloth is Illusionary bags.
23g/volatile x 30 volatiles/cloth x 8 cloth/bag comes to something like 5500g/bag.
I'm much too cheap for that.
Cambro Apr 28th 2011 4:45PM
How much money can you make grinding dungeons in 24 hours?
Starting last Thursday or Friday, I took advantage of the "obsidium shuffle", buying the ore cheap, prospecting it, cutting and selling the low quality gems, saving the carnelians, turning them into carnelian spikes, disenchanting them, and auctioning the greater celestial essences, sometimes auctioning carnelians themselves for more than I can make off the GCEs, and having an herbalist and alchemist, I'm also saving some carnelians for transmuting inferno rubies. I also saved all the uncommon gems from prospecting. In the past week, not counting anything else I've been auctioning, I have made about 32,600 gold JUST FROM THAT ONE VENTURE. I spent about 15k gold on the ore itself, and I stand to make several thousand more gold as I finish selling off the carnelians and its byproducts. That's about 17k gold in pure profit from about 12 hours of effort in one week, by myself without having to deal with stupid pugs, in my leisure time.
So, remind me how much you can make in 24 hours of just grinding dungeons?
Spark Apr 28th 2011 5:05PM
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Stella Khatibi Apr 28th 2011 3:04PM
Yet another post telling us how to make money from the AH. Is it the same person that keeps writing these? Is this really information or just an attempt to start an argument about undercutting?
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So you posted several paragraphs of long-winded complaint to state that this is not relevant to your interests? Or are you really incapable of following the logic that if numerous articles are being written about a particular aspect of the game, there might be some people (unlike yourself) that are interested in it?
I've been playing the AH since Classic. Its one aspect of the game I like. Meanwhile, I can't stand arenas (but love BGs and world PvP). Consequently, I have a tendency to want to skip over articles about arenas. However, sometimes I do skim over them as they sometimes have information that can be applied to PvP in general.
Likewise, I'd suggest you either skip over the Gold Capped articles - or read them to be informed. You might not play the AH yourself. But if you buy / sell at all, you might find some basic understanding of what's going on might help you in that limited endeavor.
Raginghobo Apr 28th 2011 7:39PM
Don't take it too bad Basil. If you read the post history, Stella complains about EVERYTHING!
Omellette Apr 29th 2011 10:03AM
Not really related, but I LOVE that outfit that the guy in the pic in this story is wearing. What are the specific pieces, so that I can recreate it on my orc bank alt?
:-)