The OverAchiever: Guide to Children's Week 2011

Yep, folks, we've got back-to-back WoW holidays this year with Noblegarden and Children's Week! Noblegarden will end right around the time that Children's Week begins, and you've got from Sunday, May 1, until Sunday, May 8, to get everything you need. Check your in-game calendar to see your realm's exact start and end times.
The Children's Week achievements and the meta For The Children are part of the year-long What A Long, Strange Trip It's Been, so you will want to get these done if you're working toward a Violet Proto-Drake. Fortunately for you, there are only six achievements associated with the meta and seven with the holiday itself. Unfortunately for you, one of them is an almighty pain in the ass that made #2 on our series of WoW's 25 most evil achievements.

This achievement's been bugged in years past -- players would get then lose it after logging to other characters -- so don't freak out if that happens again. Blizzard's usually quick with the hotfixes.
Bad Example I've listed where and how you can find the necessary sweets below; just don't forget to have your orphan out before you sit down to what might be expensive treats:
- Tigule and Foror's Strawberry Ice Cream This will be sold by vendors who appear in Stormwind and Orgrimmar for the duration of the holiday, although it's possible that their locations will have changed somewhat post-Cataclysm. If you're Alliance, you'll be looking for Emmithue Smails, who will probably be located in or around the main Stormwind inn. If you're Horde, Alowicious Czervik was traditionally found between Orgrimmar's central auction house and bank (now Grommash Hold). If you're leveling a character in Outland, you may find it more convenient to purchase the ice cream from your faction's innkeeper in Nagrand. You've also been able to find it on a vendor at the Shimmering Flats racetrack in Thousand Needles, which is now ... uh, underwater. Fear not: Brivelthwerp peddles the ice cream these days from a boat at 69, 85.
- Red Velvet Cupcake Sold by Aimee, the Dalaran pastry vendor located outside the city's north bank at 51, 27.
- Dalaran Brownie Sold by Aimee.
- Dalaran Doughnut Sold by Aimee.
- Lovely Cake Sold by Aimee. In order to get the Lovely Cake Slice you need, right-click the cake to set it down somewhere on the ground. You'll then be able to right-click it again and take a "slice" of this somewhat expensive cake.
- Tasty Cupcake Created by cooking, requiring 350 skill (or you can always look on the auction house, as enterprising players will certainly be selling them, albeit for high prices, during the holiday). Requires two Simple Flour (purchased from any cooking supplier) and one Northern Egg per cupcake. If you're not willing to pay what are sure to be highly inflated prices on the auction house for eggs, you can easily get them off most bird mobs in Northrend.
- Delicious Chocolate Cake The Delicious Chocolate Cake recipe is a random reward from cooking dailies. Most dedicated chefs are already likely to have the recipe, which requires 1 cooking skill and eight Simple Flour, four Ice Cold Milk, four Mild Spices, eight Small Eggs, one Flask of Port and three Mageroyal. If you don't have the recipe or the inclination to farm up the materials, you'll probably find some cakes on the auction house, but -- like the Tasty Cupcake -- they are likely to be very expensive.
Aw, Isn't It Cute? This is very easy and fun to get. Each of the Azeroth, Outland and Northrend Children's Week quest lines will reward you with your pick of noncombat pets at the end, and all you have to do is learn one. The quest lines themselves are very straightforward.
Hail To The King, Baby This was arguably easier during Wrath of the Lich King with tons of players already running Utgarde Pinnacle, but let's face it: At level 85, you should be able to stomp the place with a friend or two, particularly because it doesn't matter whether you kill Ymiron on normal or heroic. Either way, don't forget to have your orphan out before you pull him.
School of Hard Knocks I've been pretty vocal about my hatred for this achievement, and I'm not alone in that. For the length of Children's Week, School of Hard Knocks turns battlegrounds into an an every-man-for-himself bonanza ruining gameplay, and even the achievement's defenders admit it's something to be endured rather than enjoyed.
School of Hard Knocks requires you to return a Warsong Gulch flag, assault a node in Arathi Basin, assault a tower in Alterac Valley and cap a flag in Eye of the Storm -- all with an orphan out. That's all very well and good, because all four objectives are routine for these battlegrounds, but legions of individual players all trying to do them at the same time rather than splitting to different objectives (you know, in the interests of teamwork?) results in an unhappy mess.
The fastest way to accomplish all four objectives is to form a premade with like-minded players, and take turns protecting each other while each gets the objectives done. Failing that, the only way to do this is to keep queuing and trying -- over and over and over again until, wonder of wonders, you're the first person to click your faction's flag in Warsong Gulch or survive the mad dash to a tower in Alterac Valley. Of course, that doesn't actually mean that pursuing the enemy flag carrier or assaulting a tower is even a good idea strategically when you do it, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a player who cares if this is the only thing standing between him/her and the meta.
The saving grace of School of Hard Knocks is that, because the battlegrounds have historically been flooded with players desperate to get it done, you'll sometimes get lucky with a We're all in this together attitude on the part of opposing players. You will get sympathetic players who'll cap and recap nodes for enemies with children out and Warsong Gulch flag carriers voluntarily dropping flags, but you shouldn't count on its being a universal truth. All it really takes is one or two opportunistic enemy players deciding to take advantage of distracted enemies, and your ass is grass. However, because so many players' mains already have the meta, there's a little less urgency these days.
I am a big fan of Blizzard's achievement system, but if you want to encourage more people to play and enjoy battlegrounds, this isn't the way to do it.
Veteran Nanny This achievement is not required for the meta, so don't worry about it unless you've been playing for a while. Players with two of the three Outland Children's Week pets can snag themselves a cool 50 achievement points by simply grabbing whichever noncombat pet they haven't picked in years past.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Jeff Apr 28th 2011 5:08PM
How School of Hard Knocks still exists and is still required for the meta is completely beyond me.
I don't jump on the Hate-Blizzard bandwagon very easily at all, but this is one situation where I can't help thinking they're asleep at the wheel. Here is an achievement that demonstrably kills a part of the game for a week. We've seen it happen before, and it'll happen again. And Blizzard is just letting it happen.
Mattimus Apr 28th 2011 5:15PM
Speaking as someone who was able to get this achievement done easily in the first day of the Holiday within just a couple hours...
I still think it's absolutely ridiculous. I got so lucky getting this done that I live in terror every day of the other shoe dropping. This achievement has robbed me of my sanity and ruined my life.
The proto-drake is not worth it! Just spend the 5000g on Master Riding and live your life! Learn from my mistake!
Trilynne Apr 28th 2011 6:00PM
Wish me luck, this is the last achieve I need for the proto-drake... I ran out of time to get it last year. o.o
Noyou Apr 28th 2011 6:03PM
Yes. It sucks. Make sure to do it Sunday. I waited until Wed. or Thursday when I got it and paid for it. There was much coolness in WSG at the beginning of the match there were hordies right by the base flag grabbing it and dropping it for us to return it. However EotS did not have any sympathy what so ever. After 2 straight battles of having my ass handed to me I dropped my holy spec for Ret and in the next match we kicked so much ass I was lucky enough to carry one flag back to the base. I actually had fun after that. Be prepared for major stress. Be patient. But please do yourself a favor and get these done first. Sunday or Monday. Don't wait. By Magni's beard don't wait!
Pyromelter Apr 28th 2011 7:54PM
AV and WSG usually you will get lucky and have teammates and an enemy working with you to cap and return.
AB can be a bit rough, but once I got my AB achievement, I did all I could to help my teammates get their achievements. The thing with AB is that usually that BG can really get competitive, so you have to do that one a bit more legit. The good thing about it is that, working together with teammates in a zerg, you can do a pre-made and help your friends out if you've gotten the achievement already.
EOTS is far and away the most awful, horrendous, impossibly horrific achievement I have ever seen in any game, MMO or not. Grinding away for 20 hours for a golden chocobo isn't as evil as that achievement. If you are horde, expect queue times to be 1 hour+ for that one. On top of that, you have to control the middle, and then fight enemies and live long enough to cap the flag. Oh, did I mention that often times you can be standing right on top of the damn flag capture point, with the flag in your hand, and your side controls the base, and the damn flag won't cap? If that happens, keep running on and off the flag capture point. It should cap eventually, but holy heck is that a stressful thing.
Pyro also recommends for EOTS that you use your maximum resilience/tank/survival and/or speed boosting spec. It is worth it to respec, for example, into frost as a mage and get improved blink for added speed and survivability. DK's should spec into blood and get all the self healing/survivability talents, and use unholy presence for runspeed increase. Druids should definitely grab a feral spec for survivability and cat runspeed increase along with dash, etc.
The entire hard knocks achievement frankly is a big middle finger from the developers to it's player base, and the EOTS one in particular is a straight kick in the balls to anyone seeking the achievement. I think the best thing that people can do is to try to queue up with friends and figure out a way to communicate with the other side, if they can, to help everyone get the achievement. If you don't have friends, I recommend you try to get in on a premade, if possible, because a premade is always going to be better than queuing solo into a pug.
Pyromelter Apr 28th 2011 7:55PM
sorry for the wall of text, here's a tl;dr: AV and WSG not bad, AB can be a bit tough but usually you can do it within the context of normal gameplay, and you will likely have to bust your butt to do EOTS so try to do that one with friends or in a pre-made of some sort.
Good luck.
DarkWalker Apr 28th 2011 8:55PM
My own experience with this blasted achiev is that, at first, I tried doing the achieve by being nice and playing as well as I could (i.e., as well as a noob PvPer, in full PvE spec and gear, could do), and didn't get a single part of it on the first day I tried.
The next day I made myself into the biggest nuisance imaginable to my own team, refusing to do anything to help the team unless it gave me part of the achievement, and even intentionally hampering their efforts if it made easier for me to get something done, and got it in less than two hours for each of the two characters I was playing. Hint: bubbled players can't capture.
If I was doing it again this year, guess how I would try to do it.
BTW, as a side effect, this achiev alone got me so burned out with BGs, and PvP in general, that I refused to set foot on a BG again, except to farm achievements - and when farming achievements, teamwork be damned, I was not there to win, just to get an achiev done and /afk as soon as I got it (or go explore the BG as soon as I couldn't progress with the achiev anymore, while waiting for it to end - AV was really nice to stroll around).
Shadowwind Apr 28th 2011 11:41PM
My hunter stands exactly one EotS cap away from the entire 'Long Strange Trip' meta. ONE CAP! FFS, Blizzard has changed other ridiculous holiday achievements before (such as the candy bag from Love Is In The Air), why not this one?! All that would be needed is to change the requirement to 'win each of these bgs', or even just go the Winter Veil route and have it be 'get a certain number of HKs with your orphan out'. But NOOOOOO, apparently this can't be done! /fume
For the record: I've completed this achievement on three characters so far, and plan to do both the hunter and my new priest this year. {Yes, I am probably a masochist.} But there is something seriously wrong with an achievement that hurts everyone even remotely associated with it. Pvpers hate it because it destroys their bgs for the week. Pvers hate it for...well, obvious reasons. EVERYONE hates it because this achievement forces one to actively grief your teammates, and pray that enemy players want to help you out.
*sigh* Brb, adding alcohol to the shopping list.
ekfxc Apr 29th 2011 1:31AM
This achievement is not that hard really. If you dislike it, you probably dislike PvP in general. I'm not especially keen on PvE and you don't hear me whining about having to do Utgarde Pinnacle and other Heroic dungeon holiday achievements.
I'll queue for randoms and help people of my own faction get their acheives, but if your the opposite faction (Horde) I'm going to camp EoTS in stealth, kill you, and take the flag. In fact, if I see any player with an orphan out, I'm going to kill you first. Why am I so mean? Because I hate the Horde -- really really hate the Horde. And I really really like killing them. I only wish I could kill their orphans too.
Orrdeath Apr 29th 2011 4:22AM
As someone who loves pvp this is one of my Fav events, me and my 5's team go into the BG's and crush people with zero resilience. We look forward to it every year.
Ill be the mage cranking out 70k shatter combos on the pve elite
Daedalus Apr 29th 2011 8:13AM
Have to agree on the awfulness of this one, especially since the entire thing could be avoided with the addition of one word to the requirements: help. (ie, help return a flag, help capture a tower, etc.) Just give the achievement to everyone in the immediate area when it happens; that preserves the spirit of it without making the whole thing awful for everyone.
As far as EotS goes, here's a tip for engineers: mount up and be right at the edge of the bubble when the BG starts. Ride straight forward, off the platform, and hit your parachute. When you hit the ground, fire your rocket boots. You'll usually get to the flag before anyone else, and be able to grab it and run back to whichever base your side is capping first.
(cutaia) Apr 29th 2011 11:13AM
"I'm not especially keen on PvE and you don't hear me whining about having to do Utgarde Pinnacle and other Heroic dungeon holiday achievements. "
1) That's because at level 80 you weren't asked to tank Ymiron as a clothie. Being asked to do things your role isn't suited for is common in School of Hard Knocks, though.
2) You'd also be hard-pressed to find a PvPer who felt their gear made it hard to run a simple heroic dungeon, whereas the gear a strict PvEer has is going to be nearly useless in a battleground, as you seem to understand from your "killing zero-resilience players" comment.
3) By pointing out that PvPers simply have to "complete" Utgarde Pinnacle, you're actually highlighting the fact that PvEers are asked to do something more than "complete" battlegrounds, which would be the truly analogous achievement. Instead, PvEers are asked to complete 4 tasks which are already PvP achievements in and of themselves, indicating they are a higher level of difficulty than just winning the battleground -- or finishing a dungeon.
4) When someone simply wants to run a dungeon and has no interest in the achievement, they don't have to worry about being grouped with people who will spend the whole dungeon trying to do something that doesn't actually help you succeed.
5) You'd be hard-pressed to find a PvPer saying, "Man, I've run Utgarde Pinnacle like 30 times and still haven't killed Ymiron!" In fact, the likelihood of getting it done, without issue, on your first try is incredibly high. This could not be said of the opposite scenario.
So, thanks for pointing out that you don't "whine" when asked to "run a dungeon." I know that you were trying to make your point, but the reality is that you actually failed and found a single sentence that illustrates 5 points for the other side.
Coldbear Apr 29th 2011 12:05PM
It's a social game that encourages teamwork.
You don't just walk into Mordor and murder Ragnaros or w/e.
Talk to people. Make friends. Get a guild. Make friends on your server and set a rule - that everyone stays and helps out til everyone get the achievement. The people who up and leave then get blacklisted and punked out on your server forum.
The reason you're mad is that something about the gameplay isn't as easy and simple and casual and single-player as you're used to. This will take team effort. If that's not your cup of tea then find another game, or stop caring about cosmetic achievements that have no impact on gameplay.
Daedalus Apr 29th 2011 2:00PM
@Coldbear
Once again, your point only serves to highlight why the achievement is so awful; the requirements specifically go against the cooperative nature of battlegrounds.
What ends up happening is that you've got most of the team on both sides ignoring the goals of the BG, ignoring the needs of the team, ignoring strategy, and just out to do what they need for the achievement. That's the reason that many hardcore PvP'ers hate this achievement too; for a whole week, any BG they go into could devolve into a complete, drawn out clusterf*ck with neither team actively trying to win; every time they queue, they have no idea how many people they're going to get on there side who not only have no idea how to win, they actually don't care AT ALL if they win or lose. Before WG was timed, you could end up with battles that just never ended that week because of how many people were just trading off flags, quitting the BG, and being replaced with people who also didn't want to end it; people who not only don't want to win, but would actively attack you for trying to.
I have no problem with an achievement that encourages people to try things they've never tried before; however, this does it in the worst way imaginable. Make the achievement to win each BG with the orphan out. Hell, make it win each one 5 times if that's too easy. But make the achievement into something where you're not actively ruining other people's gaming by persuing it.
Cadychan May 8th 2011 10:10AM
I feel bad for saying this, but as a bona-fide, PVE carebear who had NEVER done BGS before, I...well....I liked this achievement a little too much. XD
A few guildies tagged along and told me the objective, how to do it, and how to do 'x' to get the orphan achievement. Once I tasted blood, I was done.
Now I can't get enough of battlegrounds, orphan or no orphan. *_*
BUT, at the end of the day, I had avoided that achievement for years because I thought it was a poorly thought out idea, so yes, I very much agree with you.
Bapo Apr 28th 2011 5:09PM
I'll be getting veteran nanny this year :D
And then I'll be done with all of children's week.
Though, do you think they'll have the Northrend one doable if you did it once already? I know last year you weren't able to.
Noyou Apr 28th 2011 6:32PM
Last year it was bugged so if you did it the prior year you could not do the northrend part again. I was a little pissed. Hopefully this year it is fixed but I won't hold my breath. I saw somewhere they added a new pet for the main questline so that should be cool.
Lemons Apr 29th 2011 3:58AM
@NoYou
Yea...I remember that. I want my wolvar pup dammit! Stupid Blizz and their buggy holidays.
Hollow Leviathan Apr 28th 2011 5:13PM
I'm looking forward to finally grabbing Veteran Nanny. I quit just before Child's Week one year, and picked the Curmudgeon's reward prior to pets becoming learnable skills, so I'll finally get it this year!
Leviathon Apr 28th 2011 5:20PM
There are Worgen and goblin children in 4.1 also so there will be some new quests to do.