Officers' Quarters: Making the most of the guild finder

A helpful feature for guild officers was added with patch 4.1, but I haven't seen many people talking about it yet. The guild finder isn't going to replace other recruiting techniques, but it can be a solid addition to your toolkit. For WoW, it represents a milestone: Players now have a viable method of searching for guilds within the game. In the past, looking for a guild usually meant whispering players you didn't know, combing through forums that often lack good search features, or -- worst of all -- asking in trade chat. (Yes, there is also a specific guild recruitment chat channel, but I've never heard of anyone using it.)
With the addition of the guild finder, players have a far better option, but only if guild leaders use it -- and use it wisely. I did a quick search for guilds on my own realm (Khadgar US). With apologies to the guild leaders there, I didn't see a single ad that took full advantage of what the finder can provide. Let's talk about how we can make the most of this new UI feature.
The guild finder UI is, ironically, a bit hard to locate. You have to bring up the guild window, click on the info tab at the bottom, and then within that tab, click on the recruitment tab at the top. You will see two main sections: a series of toggles to define your guild and a message window to type whatever you want.
Toggle tips
The toggles are, sadly, quite limited. So much crucial information could have been conveyed here, but instead we are left with categories for which 90% of guilds will check off just about everything. Even so, it's worth looking at them and choosing carefully.
For the guild interests toggles, the most important are PvP, raids, and roleplaying. (Just about everyone does questing and dungeons, so those aren't particularly relevant.) For the remaining three, you should toggle them only if your guild provides organized support for the activity. It doesn't have to be officer-led, but it should be an activity that someone in the guild actively coordinates.
The availability toggle is practically useless. Would it have been so difficult to actually provide seven toggles, one for each day of the week? Just check both unless your guild specifically avoids doing anything on weekends or weekdays.
For class roles, I'd recommend checking all of them, even if you're not actively looking for those roles at this moment. In the long run, it can only help you. For one thing, it means that everyone searching will see your guild and become aware of it. It's free advertising. They can follow up with you to see what you need, and maybe they'll consider switching roles. If not, you can contact them when and if you do wind up needing their preferred role.
The other reason to check all three is because a lot of players are getting burned out or bored right now. You never know when you might need a new tank or an extra DPSer. Patch 4.1 did virtually nothing to keep active raiders interested in the game, and tier 12 is going to be one of the smallest raiding tiers ever designed. Guilds are in for a rough ride in the next six months or so, especially since we're heading for summer, when attendance tends to bottom out. You may not think you need any more DPS at the moment, but you might soon find yourself wishing you had checked the little box under the red circle. Now is not the time to limit your recruiting options.
Finally, we've got the level toggles. There's no reason to limit yourself to one toggle or the other unless your guild is specifically a leveling guild or a guild that only accepts max-level players.
This part of the finder leaves much to be desired. Hopefully Blizzard will expand and refine it in future patches.
Focusing your message
That big, empty box at the bottom looks like it can convey all sorts of great information, but the window only allows you to enter 256 characters. Yep, that's characters, not words. In reality, it's worse than that: When you look at guilds' actual notices via the search tool, the ones that run long eventually get cut off, even though they were under the character limit (since you can't actually type beyond that). I couldn't find a way to read the entire message. If you've figured out how, let me know!
So, in less than 256 characters, you've got to sell someone on your guild. The limit is not ideal, but a brief, focused recruiting notice is always superior to a long, rambling one.
Here are some ways to make the most of your message:
- Include your guild's specific activity schedule. It may feel like you are filtering out everyone who can't make those times, and in general, you are. However, someone who can make those times is going to be very interested in your community -- and those are the players you want to target anyway.
- Provide your guild's website. No one on Khadgar had done this when I searched, and there were quite a few ads up -- I counted 24. Nothing is more crucial to convey here. When a player visits your site, they can find out much more about the guild and what it's all about than they ever could from the guild finder alone.
- Set the hook. Briefly explain exactly what makes your guild unique. Talk about specific differentiators such as member demographics, raid size focus, policies about loot or attendance, type of roleplaying, special events that your guild hosts, and so on.
- Toot your horn. You're running out of room now, so use whatever space you have left to list some of your guild's recent accomplishments. You could talk about raid progression, battleground rating, achievements, recipes and vanity items you've unlocked, and so on.
- Don't write your guild's name, level, number of members, or achievement point total. That information will appear in your ad automatically.
- Don't exaggerate. Recruits will find out the truth eventually, and you'll likely lose them when they do. It also reflects quite poorly on your guild's reputation.
Once you've listed the notice by clicking on the button at the bottom of the pane, make sure to check the window frequently for membership requests. It's probably not a good idea to accept someone blindly, but you can contact them and begin your own application process. Note that you can remove the listing just as easily by clicking that same button.
Keep in mind that the finder can only be seen by players on your server within the same faction, so it's more limited than a forum post. It has the crucial advantage, however, of accessibility within the game 24 hours a day. I recommend that every guild leader take advantage of it during the difficult months ahead.
/salute
Filed under: Officers' Quarters (Guild Leadership)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Trisnic May 2nd 2011 2:14PM
I used this for my guild and I haven't found any quality players through it, but it's always nice to have another way to recruit.
First a note, you do not need to create a new character, type /gf and you will be able to access the guild finder.
We include our raid times and pvp times, our website and a little bit about us which I would also definitely recommend. We are an end game guild but tried "all levels" as a way to have people find us on their alts. We found that this gave us way too many level 1s with no notes so we changed it back to max levels only.
Shinae May 2nd 2011 3:46PM
It's good to know that anyone can access the Guild Finder tool, guilded or not. The /gf command is rather intuitive (and a bit funny to me because it makes me think "girlfriend").
thedoctor2031 May 2nd 2011 8:32PM
I had the inverse problem while looking at guilds, I found a bunch of new level one guilds many of which had fewer than 5 people whose only message was "Join us before we make the big time and start rejecting people!" Out of the 50 or so guilds I saw only around 5-7 looked worthwhile and all of them were above level 10. Is there a way to filter out based on level, time in existence, or similar factor? If not Blizzard please add one!
Gimmlette May 2nd 2011 2:16PM
I used this feature last week and have had 17 applicants in 3 days. One was, we believe, a gold spammer as the name was a 10 letter name, all consonants, repeating the first 3 with an "x" in between the string. I used almost all of the 256 characters ending with the request they look us up online, giving our web site. My membership officer then sent each name a letter explaining that we require people to read our Code of Conduct and the raiding guidelines and requesting they fill out an application. Once that's done, we will conduct an interview. We had 5 people withdraw their names after receiving her letter.
This will be a handy tool for recruitment. It's just another way to get your guild out there. I give this feature a 'thumbs up'.
Necromann May 2nd 2011 2:17PM
So, it lets you put out basically a tweet about your guild in the ad.
dwarfish May 2nd 2011 2:17PM
Do you have a chat addon that changes font size / font? My wife does not and can read more information on that screen than I can. Just an idea.
Eirik May 2nd 2011 5:54PM
You can, with difficulty, change the default text size in the chat window. I don't know about the UI as a whole, though.
VioletArrows May 2nd 2011 6:18PM
If you want to blow up the whole UI, I had good luck with Fontifier. There was one I had before that, but 403 broke it. :/
rhorle May 2nd 2011 2:22PM
Blizzard has said that it is a bug that the window cuts off a guilds full message.
Adam r May 2nd 2011 2:32PM
instead of hopping on or creating an unguilded toon, you can also type in /gf (Guild Finder), and that lets you browse just like on an unguilded toon.
Fawatam May 2nd 2011 2:30PM
My biggest complaint about the system is really more of a technical one. You still cannot invite people unless they are actually online at that moment. My guild currently has several requests I'd love to approve of, however cannot actually send an invite since the user is not online. Such a shame, but with the system like this I'm forced to simply hope they are online at the same time as me so that they can actually join the guild, as opposed to accepting them and letting them join whenever they are next online.
The Dewd May 2nd 2011 4:15PM
I'm experiencing the same problem. Some seem to be low-level toons who "applied' without actually saying anything but there are quite a few I'd like to invite - but can't. I can't even leave them a message. I'm going to have to send in-game mails to people before they think they're being ignored and that annoys me. I shouldn't have to go through that just to respond to someone who isn't on when I'm on - and asking my officers to spend a bunch of their in-game time looking for people doesn't sound fair.
chris May 2nd 2011 2:36PM
Yeah I've found that I cant really relay the information I would like applicants to have, nor can the applicants give me enough information to make a call on whether to recruit or not.
The idea is a good one, implementation fails a little, especially when dealing with higher level guilds whos recruitement processes are more complex.
I've been working on an addon that will hopefully allow easier communication and logging of that communication with applicants.
Recruitment Enhancement
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/recruitmentenhancement.aspx
Upy
Shrike May 2nd 2011 4:50PM
Looks like a great idea, Upy, and I'll definitely be getting this AddOn. So far, we've had few enough I can just manually set up in-game mails, but this will make my life a lot easier.
Vaufe May 2nd 2011 2:38PM
And to build on what Fawatam said, it'd also be nice if any members with the ability to see the "requests" tab (I think anyone with invite privs can see it) would get some kind of system message informing them that there is a new applicant. Many times so far we've seen requests, but since we're not babysitting the window 24/7, not a single time has the requestor been online the first time we try to invite. Isntead we end up mailing them, and they join later.
chris May 2nd 2011 2:41PM
My addon is working on this one :) Hopefully will be a minmap icon :)
Vaufe May 2nd 2011 3:16PM
I'll be downloading your addon tonight, Chris. Looks spiffy!
Caleel May 2nd 2011 2:44PM
The writer of this article didn't take long to search for any info. As a gm of an alliance guild khadgar our website is the place we direct applicants to.
Glarf May 2nd 2011 2:44PM
I have a small guild on the Quel'dorei server. I started it for storage purposes, but since the guild levels went live, I am looking for members to just chill and level together, and so far I have had a decent number of responses. Liking it so far.
Alyosha May 2nd 2011 3:26PM
I'm leveling an alt on Thorium Brotherhood-US, an RP realm, and I tried using the guild finder to look for Alliance guilds that promote RP events or have an RP purpose for existing. Unfortunately, it looks like the guilds that have advertised so far have just checked every toggle. When your guild description is something like, "We're a level 4 guild, we have bank slots, we're all cool and just like to take it easy", I don't really believe that the "Roleplaying" toggle means the same thing to you as it does to me.
Of course, there are better ways to look for RP in the official and unofficial realm forums. I suppose I was just hoping for some kind of magic bullet in the new feature.