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5-04-2011 @ 10:42AM
How do the Twinblades stand up to the current BiS assassination daggers from heroics (Steelbender's Masterpiece and Quicksilver Blade, unless things have changed)? Is it worth farming ZG to get them, or should I stick with my blue daggers?And for that matter, how do the various rogue trinkets compare? I've heard that Tia's Grace or Key to the Endless Chamber beat out a lot of 359 trinkets, but nobody is quite precise on whether, say, Unsolveable Riddle is better than the Key, or how DMC:Hurricane holds up against Tia's Grace (I know Unheeded Warning is for kittycats).
5-04-2011 @ 10:57AM
You should run the daggers through something like Shadowcraft to see if they're better for you. Neither has ideal stats, but their higher ilvl gives them MORE stats and more damage. I'd assume the epics are better (they were for me), but it wasn't a very wide margin.There aren't any new rogue trinkets in The Zuls. Any time there's a "stacking" trinket like Tia's, it tends to be strong for a very long time. Blizzard undervalues the "stacking" stat (Agility), allowing them to put a ton of it on the trinket. Trinkets that stack have always outlived their tier, and Tia's is no exception. Mastery RULES for assassination, and then it has a ton of agility stacked on it too. The catch is that you need to work hard to maintain a good uptime on the agility stack buff, but that's not too hard if you're careful.http://shadowcraft.mmo-mumble.com/
5-04-2011 @ 12:06PM
You can a use a spreadsheet or Shadowcraft to confirm, but I'm pretty sure you'll find that the twinblades are better. For Assassinaiton (I'm assuming you're assassination because you were asking about the daggers) Tia's Grace and the Key are very close to the same quality and they beat out all 359 trinkets except for Prestor's Talisman and Fluid Death.
5-04-2011 @ 12:09PM
For assassination we are currently sitting on: 372 Prestor's > 359 Fluid Death (From VP, go get it now!) > 372 Essence of the Cyclone > 359 Prestor's > 346 Tia's Grace.There are 5 359 trinkets below it of which the darkmoon card is one. The first upgrade as you can see drops off Nefarian on normal, so yes that will last you quite a while. Fluid Death will only be replaced in 4.2 if something better is available by then.Trinket info from Elitistjerks' Assassination thread btw.
5-04-2011 @ 12:27PM
Get the main hand dagger for sure. Main hand damage is even better than agility when it comes to increasing dps. As for the off-hand, thats a tougher call; it's not very well itemized. I'd spreadsheet that one.
5-04-2011 @ 12:32PM
Thanks, Ogkspaz; I had a look at the spreadsheet thing and found it fairly opaque. As a non-raider, the first 359 trinket "of value" I can get my hands on is likely to be the Fluid Death, then. Right now I've got the Unsolveable Riddle and the Key ... I've been running Lost City daily in the hopes of getting the trinket. No luck yet, but it's only a matter of time. Just like Anzu.
5-04-2011 @ 1:17PM
Just FYI, item level is a really bad indicator for how good a trinket is. Unsolvable Riddle is actually the worst 359 rogue trinket. It's even worse than the Left Eye of Rajh.
5-04-2011 @ 3:46PM
The MH is still worse than the Vicious Gladiator's Shanker...which is a shame imo. I wanted to wield both twinblades as that would be freaking sweet looking.
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