to be honest, im not sure how this happens to people. im on a back water server that historically never gets anywhere (misha), and i dont claim to be hardcore either. we havent cleared any raid fully but we still raid, 3 times a week, no matter what, and we still move forward at a steady pace, even if its a slow pace. we will never be the best on our server, let alone anywhere else, but we have fun. when we start getting burnt out raiding, we take a night off and run BGs. were not real life friends or anything like that, we all just love the game. we dont even have a full 10 person group. we end up pugging at least 1 a night, 2 or 3 of us have a massive collection of alts so no matter what we get, we can make a balanced group somehow. to top it off, most of us only really play 10-15 hours a week.

this is kind of a wild stab in the dark, but i would have to say its the attitude that crept into this game during wrath. i cant even name the attitude, its like people want to be "leet" or not play at all.

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