Officers' Quarters: Wrath of the orange stick

WoW has had a fairly limited number of legendary items over the years. Some took a monumental effort (and a bit of luck) to put together; others just fell into our hands. Either way, obtaining one has always been a big deal.
Patch 4.2 is rectifying a longstanding omission by offering caster DPSers their own, exclusive legendary weapon: Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest. Sure, you could count Atiesh, but only a handful of guilds around the world ever assembled one, and it could be used by healers as well. Needless to say, casters are hyped, and every caster wants one. Cue the drama:
Hi Scott,Unfortunately, only one caster in your guild will have the thrill of being the first to complete the quest line. Your guild might be able to assemble more than one down the road, but that's irrelevant right now. Everyone wants to be first. How can we single out one player for this amazing reward?
I just wanted to suggest a topic for the next Officers' Quarters: How to choose who gets Dragonwrath. The casters in our group all want and think they deserve the staff, but we're having trouble agreeing on how to decide. Raw DPS, seniority, voting amongst the group, and even chance have been suggested.
Thanks for any help!
Legendaries of this type, in my opinion, should fall outside of any given loot system that your guild uses. The officers should be the ones to decide who gets the first crack at it.
Disqualifications
Before we talk about who should be eligible, let's talk about who shouldn't be eligible.
- Anyone who has already earned a legendary in your guild. For example, if a warrior had Shadowmourne in Wrath and then switched to a mage for Cataclysm, he or she should be ineligible for Dragonwrath. Legendaries are just too rare. Spread the love around.
- Anyone who recently joined. It goes without saying.
- Anyone who has poor or inconsistent raid attendance. Assembling the weapon requires quite a few BOP drops from the Firelands, and if that person isn't around, he or she can't make progress toward the staff.
Criteria
1. Guild loyalty. This should be one of the top considerations, in my opinion, far beyond where a player lands on the DPS charts. We've all heard nightmare stories of players whose guild hands them a legendary, and then they take off with it. The player who receives your first Dragonwrath should be someone who's been a longtime member and who has never wavered in his or her commitment to the community.
Loyalty is not necessarily seniority. Plenty of players stay in guilds they don't necessarily feel loyal to, either for lack of better options or because they're too lazy to find a new one. Officers who pay attention can tell the difference.
2. Guild service. Dragonwrath should go to a player who is a major asset to your guild, a player who is virtually irreplaceable -- a dedicated and active officer, a critical raid leader, or an ordinary member who plays a key role within the guild. Someone who goes above and beyond to ensure the guild succeeds should be at the top of your list.
Rewards like Dragonwrath are best used as motivators for players to do more for the guild and as special thank-you gifts to the players who already put in the time and effort.
3. Dedication to the role. The only thing worse than someone who gquits after getting a legendary is something who decides to switch mains. For that reason, it's preferable to offer a weapon like Dragonwrath to someone who's been playing the caster DPS role for a long time, not someone who just switched to warlock last week. Make sure the person you choose has no intention of switching classes/roles.
4. Intention to raid moving forward. It's never a pleasant conversation to have, and it's possible the person's feelings or life situation will change in the future. Still, it's a good idea to make sure the player you pick will be raiding with you through the tiers of Cataclysm when Dragonwrath will still be relevant. Don't just assume that they will.
5. DPS and player skill. I've saved this for last because I think it does deserve a small amount of consideration, but I don't think it should be a major element of the choice. Just don't put this staff in the hands of a player who stands in fire all the time or who can't keep up with the tanks on the meters. If a player meets all the criteria above and his or her skill is on par with most of the guild, they should be a candidate. A decision like this goes beyond min-maxing -- the long-term health of the guild should be the top concern.
Tiebreakers
Even with all these tough criteria, your officers still may not be able to choose. Consider yourselves lucky that you have so many helpful and loyal players!
Before you come up with your own tiebreaker, approach all the possible candidates and tell them who is being considered. Give them each the opportunity to decline, whether because they're not sure about their attendance in the future or because they think that someone else deserves it over them (hey, it could happen ...).
If that doesn't narrow the field, then I always think that RNG should decide. Debating it endlessly among the officers is only going to lead to conflict and possibly hurt feelings. Don't let the situation devolve into a political campaign. Just bring the candidates together and have them roll for priority. That way, no one can argue with the result.
The other possible tiebreaker that's difficult to argue with is attendance. However, you must have actual attendance data. You can't ballpark this kind of thing unless the difference is obvious to everyone. Raw numbers are best.
Of course, players can still argue about whom the officers deem eligible. It can't be denied: Items with orange names are drama magnets like nothing else in WoW. You're not likely to get past this choice unscathed. But hey -- at least this time, everyone gets a pet!
/salute
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Matticus May 16th 2011 3:07PM
Atonement Priest weapon!
Mush May 16th 2011 3:43PM
This is exactly the equation I've been running in my mind the last couple of weeks...
1 guild, 2 casters. Warlock and myself (mage). Both equally motivated and loyal to the guild.
Just one problem... The warlock is infact an officer and manages a good chunk of the guild bank..
So really, I'm hoping by the time we start on the legendary the guild will either choose me, or I get lucky on the rolls. If the warlock gets chosen, so be it... as long as I get to have a go second :P
Also, the fact that we'll need 12/12 normal down could be a problem. I guess I'll have to subtly prod the guild into focussing on Al'akir instead of heroic BWD :P
wutsconflag May 16th 2011 3:32PM
NO WAI.
HUNTER WEPON OBVS.
C'mon, srsly!
Katherine May 16th 2011 7:42PM
As much as I would love to agree and encourage people to give my smiting priest a legendary, we really have no use for the hit :(
Jagganath May 16th 2011 10:23PM
That’s what reforging is for :P
But yeah, DPS should be first. The proc is also not final neither are the stats.
But I would be keen to plug the numbers to see what Atonement could do with that staff.
People are saying the hit is poo, but what about just the sheer rawr stats, does that not outweigh the loss of one secondary stat? Again should never been taken over a mean dps, but if the guild is lacking a third or even second deserving candidate it should be something to look at.
Again numbers would have to be crunched, but I've seen first had the healing and dps of a holyfire/smiting disc priest can do.
Jason May 16th 2011 3:15PM
My guild's potential pool is pretty small, which helps. We laid out the requirements to be eligible when word of the staff came out & everyone was accepting of that plan. In short we're only letting regular attendees (90% attendance minimum during the last 3 months), whose main spec is caster DPS get a roll for the first part that drops. After that the winner gets the rest, unless they're not present, until the staff is done.
aerrae May 16th 2011 3:22PM
That is a good idea in theory, but I think you might still get hurt feelings in the end. If for example someone has a 100% attendance record, they might feel that the person who got the drop and just squeezed in at 90% is less deserving.
Hopefully your guild will work through that well, but it can still be a sore spot for some.
Grovinofdarkhour May 16th 2011 3:20PM
The person in your raid who should get to build it first should be whoever has the lowest cumulative HILTYWASIC score.
(where HILTYWASIC = "Hours I've Lost To Your Whining About Silly, Idiotic Crap")
Coanunn May 16th 2011 10:31PM
I guess the only thing I would add, is a dis-qualifier.. anyone who has demanded they be first or they will leave. People with that level of entitlement and self importance deserve to be shown the door.
People by and large have a sense of entitlement that they just deserve x with no reasons for why beyond "it's just fair that it go to me". These people should not be the first to receive the Dramawrath, I mean Dragonwrath.
I might also add that if at all possible making the first person to receive the item be a non-officer can take the sting out of the process a little for your membership. while I agree officers don't get what they deserve as far as rewards due to the level of responsibility they have, the officers themselves should be the first ones to see the need to promote harmony over a gear upgrade for themselves.
zubbiefish May 17th 2011 8:37AM
In many guilds, being an officer is a perk in, and of, itself. While in theory officers have a large amount of responsibility, in many cases it's actually only 1-3 folks at the top doing all of the real work. The rest do other tasks, like stirring up trouble, strutting around in a self-important manner, and demanding unearned respect.
Great officers are the folks who put the guild, as an organization, ahead of their own goals. They're the kind of people who would do as you suggest, and have a non-officer work on a legendary first. The rest are the same people that will figure that they deserve it by virtue of all of the hard work they, as officers, put in.
Coanunn May 17th 2011 9:45AM
Zubbie, if your officers are acting like that, it's a failure by the Guild Leader in appointing them an officer or allowing them to continue to act in such a manner while remaining an officer. With that said I will add the additional caveat that douchebags, in all their forms don't deserve a legendary at all.
Oakraven May 16th 2011 3:33PM
you left off reason 0
the member most likely to spontaniously vaporise half the guild. . .
http://www.complexactions.com/archive/180.shtml
(Just teasing Kes, Shes wonderfull! honestly!)
Eirik May 16th 2011 5:08PM
It's always nice to see a sense of self-preservation kick off. Too bad it was so late in doing so. Nice knowing you, Oakraven...
Shinae May 16th 2011 3:32PM
How to decide?
/roll
I kid.
None of my guild's officers (including me) have a caster main, as we tend to focus on tanks and healers to support raiding. So we're considering 2 of our members who are dedicated mages. One will probably get it before the other member (with seniority), simply because he has time to make it to all the raids while the senior one can only make the weekend one because he's a family man.
Shinae May 16th 2011 3:43PM
I forgot to add, as an officer of a roleplaying/raiding guild, I put forth the rule that players who get the guild's help for the legendary must write a story about it. This works for the aforementioned mages because both characters already have an interest in the Bronze dragonflight.
North May 16th 2011 5:30PM
A serious raiding guild that also roleplays!?
Your guild sounds fantastic, what is its name and what server is it on?
Fierna May 16th 2011 8:55PM
Oooooh RP raiders! Alliance or Horde?
HappyTreeDance May 16th 2011 10:45PM
I'm also an officer in Scions of the Horde, the guild Shinae is talking about. We're Horde side on Argent Dawn-US.
LynMars May 17th 2011 3:44AM
RPers who raid are more common than you think. Many RP guilds/groups/individuals on Shadow Council-US have a long tradition of it, both factions.
blizzardsprules May 17th 2011 8:17AM
Yep, even our guild, The Three Hammers on Defias Brotherhood-EU, have begun raiding; we've downed most bosses in 1 or 2 attempts, and atramedes in under an hour. Our only problem at the moment is we can only raid once a week, but plan for 2 or maybe 3 times later on ^^