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5-24-2011 @ 1:47PM
In before "catering to the casuals."If anyone wants to make arguments that this will makes Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's rest a highly common legendary, this will prolly be a strong reason why.
5-24-2011 @ 1:53PM
Does Tarecgosa's Rest require running a lot of BWD/BOT/TotFW? If not, I'm not sure how this affects it.These aren't nerfs to Firelands, just the old raids that we are CURRENTLY doing (and will be moving away from once Firelands drops)
5-24-2011 @ 1:59PM
the nerf is to T11 raids, and Tarecgosa's Rest is a T12 legendary
@ ThrasherTo access the legendary questline, you have to have your Defender title. In other words, you have to have completed all the T11 raids to get the quest.
5-24-2011 @ 2:08PM
Its because you have to be 12/12 normal mode in order to be eligible to obtain the legendary staff.
5-24-2011 @ 2:04PM
Uh, bro... the Legendary Staff is obtained through TIER 12, not Tier 11.They're nerfing Tier 11 for the people who couldn't experience it. No nerfs have been reported for Tier 12.
5-24-2011 @ 2:07PM
While you do need to run the old raids to be eligible for the quest chain, you can not get the actual legendary part without lots of firelands runs.Just like Shadow's Edge/Shadowmourne, the base, epic version will be relatively common, but the legendary one will not.Unlike Shadow's Edge, there's several epic versions along the way, and I bet each higher version will be less and less common.
5-24-2011 @ 2:09PM
Well so what? I mean there are two types of raiders out there right now...hardcore raiders that have had heroic mode content down for MONTHS and the rest of us.If your raid team already has this stuff on farm then it doesn't affect you in the least. If you're on a raid team that doesn't then you have a small amount of time to try to get it down (I'd say at least a month /shrug), and if you can't you will hopefully be able to after the patch.I will also say this will be good for my former raid team that was struggling with Magmaw/Halfus. Now they can go in and gain some confidence by kicking butt.
5-24-2011 @ 2:12PM
Yes, it's a t12 legendary, but he's looking down the road. Lately, it's been Blizz policy to nerf down high end raid content when they release the next raid tier. So you can expect to see a bunch of fresh orange staves shortly after the onset of t13 raid content...savvy?
5-24-2011 @ 2:23PM
Man, downrated to the ground. This is a good change for guilds that haven't cleared T12 yet. This really isn't a bad change for anyone, and it's the people who are crying foul about this change that I meant to mock the most. I suppose I could have made that more clear.
5-24-2011 @ 2:29PM
The legendary quest will require you to have killed 12/12 normal mode.I don't really care about this change. Anyone should be able to see all the normal mode bosses, and if you haven't managed that in 6 months you're either late to the party, casual or well...bad (and in that case you need these nerfs).
5-24-2011 @ 2:33PM
Let me try that again. "This is a good change for guilds that haven't cleared T11 yet. This really isn't a bad change for anyone, and it's the people who are crying foul about this change that I meant to mock the most. "That's what I meant to say here. WTB Edit button. ^_^
5-24-2011 @ 8:03PM
@Kole"I mean there are two types of raiders out there right now...hardcore raiders that have had heroic mode content down for MONTHS and the rest of us."I really hate seeing this suggestion that there are only two types of raiders. With a playerbase this large, that's really a ridiculous idea. I'm no hardcore raider. I've not beaten any hardcore modes. My guild is 11/12 and just started Nefarian two weeks ago. We take it easy, only raiding two nights a week, but we have fun and we down bosses eventually. These nerfs aren't targeted at us. We'll get Nef down before Firelands hits. We're a group right smack in the middle.There's more than two types of raiders out there. Some of "the rest of us" like things just fine as they are. We also have no problem with letting other people see the raids though. I have no issue with other people having fun, if they aren't hurting my own fun.
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