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5-24-2011 @ 11:05AM
I stand by the statement that nobody uses it, because it's nigh-unusable. There's no independent volume controls, so it's feast or famine on whether you can or cannot hear someone. The result depends on the speaker's output levels, which means even within the same group, someone can be quiet as a mouse, while another person can be heard from the hilltops. The ONLY good thing about the system is the popup UI that shows who is speaking.Everything else is shit.
5-24-2011 @ 11:10AM
There's overlays for Mumble, and I believe some addons might do that too.Soooo... Only redeeming quality stumped by the almighty Mumble in every way? :P
5-24-2011 @ 11:12AM
Nice. Thanks for that!
5-24-2011 @ 11:14AM
The reason I don't use ingame voice chat is because if WoW goes down, your chat goes down, but if I'm using mumble or vent then I can still be in contact with the people in my group even if my client is having problems. And I suspect it's quicker to reconnect to vent after the modem or router goes out than it would be to reconnect to ingame chat.
5-24-2011 @ 11:26AM
Hence why every self respecting guild uses mumble.unfortunately we have no self respect and so use vent :(
That's something I was going to mention Nina, the fact that when I get kicked from the server/game, I can tell my guild that my WoW crashed which is a great thing.Now, I have used the in game chat before, and it's nice when you do a quick group quest with some other randoms wandering around, but other than that, it's quite useless to me.
5-24-2011 @ 11:28AM
How strange. On Saturday, I found myself in a BWD pug that wanted everyone to use in-game chat because one guy had some kind of issue with vent.I can confirm that it's still both choppy and static-y (staticky?) at the same time, you will probably understand around 50% of what is being said, and if you try to get a group to use it, everyone will be discussing how much ass it sucks within five minutes.
5-24-2011 @ 8:42PM
I played with a group for a while that used it exclusively to communicate. Yes, it's clunky.. but it does get a lot of use.
5-24-2011 @ 11:44AM
"I can confirm that it's still both choppy and static-y (staticky?) at the same time, you will probably understand around 50% of what is being said, and if you try to get a group to use it, everyone will be discussing how much ass it sucks within five minutes."This is funny to me because, as a Mumble guild, this sounds exactly like us describing the times we've been forced to use Vent.
5-24-2011 @ 11:52AM
Well tbh Cutaia it very much so depends on the quality of the vent server you are on, my guild recently had to switch vent servers after an officer who ran the server gquit and took the server with him. We one we switched to, ended up sounding a hell of a lot better then one we had before.Having said that I tried to put in for us to try mumble out but it just doesn't seem to be popular on Auchindoun EU at all really.
5-24-2011 @ 11:53AM
I might get voted down for this, but I think the in-game voice is not that bad and could be very helpful when doing Heroic Randoms. Believe it or not I did use for one random heroic and it work out just fine, but it was me (tank) and the healer.
5-24-2011 @ 11:55AM
After reading about this problem (cannot communicate when game goes down) and the one further down (cross-server voice chat not implemented) I think Blizzard's only real option is to build an external program or one that uses a web browser through Armory...although I'm not sure how successful the latter could be.While I could see Blizzard tacking such a service onto the Premium Service, *nobody* would choose to pay for something they already get for free/mostly free.
5-24-2011 @ 12:00PM
Dang! There's that much difference in sound quality between Vent and Mumble?
5-24-2011 @ 12:10PM
"Dang! There's that much difference in sound quality between Vent and Mumble?"At least in my experience. I can't speak to what Ebony is saying above about some Vent servers being "better" than others. All I know is that entering any Vent server always kills a little part of my soul.
5-24-2011 @ 12:27PM
I use both Ventrilo and Mumble, there isn't that much of a difference. People sound different in Mumble but I wouldn't say they sound better. The differences aren't so great to make me prefer one over the other, except that Mumble costs less to run then Ventrilo.
5-24-2011 @ 12:53PM
I've noted a huge difference in voice quality with Mumble in that it's vastly better than Vent, but I'm also finding that this seems to correlate with the quality of the users connection. Folks playing with a limited connection may sound tinny during periods of high latency, and also report hearing this from others.Overall though, Mumble RULES. We had a period of time where we were using both (just to see if Mumble is worthy of the hype) and I quickly came to cringe whenever we had cause to use vent. Vent has since blissfully expired, and Mumble is all we use now.
5-24-2011 @ 1:07PM
@CutaiaI had no idea either then different servers could sound different either, but them seem to anyway according to my ears.
5-24-2011 @ 1:16PM
The biggest advantage of Mumble over Vent (imo) is the reduced latency. Calling out abilities over Vent, our guild made a practice of subtracting two seconds from every callout to account for transmission delays; we now call out accurate times over Mumble.Once complaint about Mumble is the lack of an option to adjust individual users' volumes on the listener's end. Mumble, however, does a better job of normalizing volume and customizing levels on the speaker's end. Vent users, keep in mind that every adjustment you make to individual levels costs CPU cycles; doesn't it make more sense to have the speaker make the adjustment once, on her end, then for everybody to make the same (costly!) adjustment themselves?
5-24-2011 @ 1:31PM
It is possible to normalise vent - it just seems that most people don't know how. I know of plenty of guilds that have instructions on how to do this for their members.
5-24-2011 @ 1:36PM
I'm sorry, but Mumble is awful.Everyone talks about how clear it is, but everytime I've tried to use it, SOME people sound crystal clear while over half of the group sounds robotic or staticky, and they say that I sound the same.It's not my headset, because I'm using a very nice and expensive headset (unless Mumble has issues with wireless headsets). But I have no problem with sound quality on Vent.(Please, by all means, if anyone out there has heard of these issues with Mumble, I'm more than willing to try fixing it and giving it another shot. I've tried things they list on their site, but nothing fixes it.)
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