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5-27-2011 @ 11:07AM
"Yes, you'll still get VPs for your first seven random heroics and seven Zandalari heroics, up to the 980 Dungeon Finder cap."Also, the heroic versions of tier 11 raids will still drop valor points.Source: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/177306/mild-medium-spicy-hot
5-27-2011 @ 11:19AM
In the current system, it's possible to hit the weekly valor cap from running 25-person raids alone. No dungeons necessary. After 4.2, 10s will be able to valor cap if they do the tier 11 heroics plus all or most of firelands. I wonder if they'll raise the weekly valor cap to reflect this possible increased income, or raise the prices of valor items? I can't see them making things that easy for 10s.
5-27-2011 @ 11:26AM
@NinaHeroic 10s are easy?
5-27-2011 @ 12:05PM
Actually that is one interesting facet of the 7 firelands bosses +1 for t12. In order to cap out weekly, regardless of raid size you do that on, you're going to either have to do 5 mans (thereby in theory adding extra tanks and healers), or use up time in the 'old' heroic raids.Although Nina is correct in pointing out that you can cap vp by doing all 14 bosses in 25 man currently, if you're actually able to do that, chances are good you don't need the vp anyway. And those that are capable of that right now are probably not going to be looking at the t11 content once t12 is live.Whilst at times i don't understand the VP cap, i can see some sense in it being that particular value. I do doubt that there will be an increase in the cap with 4.2, although a small one might well be implemented. In the long term, i'd wager we'd have the ability to finally face off against Deathwing at the time VP gets uncapped. (and then it will be recapped for 5.0.x)
5-27-2011 @ 12:53PM
@sporkwind - By the time you're killing 7 bosses in firelands I'd hope that heroic tier 11 10s would be easy.
5-27-2011 @ 1:28PM
@ Nina : you have to remember that heroic ICC is still hard to some people at 85...
5-27-2011 @ 2:22PM
@ninaHopefully when you're in Fireland Heroic 10s will be easier, but heroic 25s will be even easier than that.(in before "Not Al'Akir!)
5-27-2011 @ 6:18PM
Nina,Heroic T11 bosses won't necessarily be easy because you can clear T12 Normal. There is a slight ilevel and stat boost between Heroic T11 and Normal T12, but it's not huge. You won't vastly overgear the encounters and there are still several new and different mechanics to deal with. Some of the bosses, like Halfus, will probably be pretty easy with the new gear, but it could still be quite tough.@Red Hawk,I don't expect Valor to ever be uncapped. The purpose of the cap is partly to limit the amount of Valor you get per week, but it's more about preventing you from feeling like you NEED to get all that Valor. A 25-raid group that can clear all the bosses feels no need to get Valor from Heroics, because they won't get any. But if they CAN get it, suddenly it feels mandatory. This was one of the big problems with raiding in Wrath. It was quite common to run both raid sizes each week, not because someone wanted to, but because they felt it was mandatory to get as many badges as possible and as many gear drops as possible.Players have proven time and time again that, yes, Blizzard DOES need to save us from ourselves. Valor will probably retain a weekly cap until they decide to totally overhaul the system again.
5-27-2011 @ 7:44PM
Also @ Nina, 25s giving more VPs provides an incentive to no just drop to 10s, and rewards the extra work of co-ordinating more sign ups. I dont think blizz's plan is to penalize people for running 10s, or to deliberately make it harder. Otherwise, people will just abandon 10s and we'll see more and more 25s.As it is, 10s have less margin of error already. Losing one DPS to a mistake is a 16-20% DPS loss for 10s, compared to 5.5-5.8% loss in 25s (assuming everyone does the same DPS).The Valor cap is possible at the moment via running 7 zandalari hcs, Magmaw, Omnitron, Halfus and Argaloth on 10s. There's been no sign that Blizz is going to change it and i doubt they will.
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