Shifting Perspectives: Disappearance of the bear, part 2

Then: SwipeSwipeSwipeSwipeSwipeSwipeSwipeSwipe.
Now: The addition of Thrash and Pulverize to the bear rotation shook things up and kept bears more engaged in optimizing their rotations, so Cataclysm brought us another win here. However, it's generally agreed that the protection warrior remains the most interesting and dynamic tank, and while Blizzard's made a lot of effort to bring the bear in line with that model, something is still ... off. As someone who's played both, the warrior is by far the more engaging tank to play if rotation is your primary concern, to the point where it feels like a puzzle with lots of little pieces all fitting perfectly.
I don't know. Something about Pulverize in particular still bothers me, but I can't articulate exactly what the problem is. That said, death knights are probably the worst off with respect to rotation issues at the moment -- the so-called "rune tetris" problem is not something I envy -- and I confess I'm not sure where paladins fall. Thoughts?
#6: Gear consolidation resulted in druids looking stupid in caster form.
Then: When the inability to see your gear while tanking can be considered a feature rather than a bug -- that's bad.
Now: No change. The degree to which feral druids resemble Bozo the Clown in any given raid tier is still up to the whims of Blizzard's artists. Non-set rogue-themed leather + druid tier gear + hunter-themed polearm usually = something that no one is rushing to put on promotional art. Frankly, it sucks to play something that always looks ugly, and it's hard not to resent being doomed to this while warrior tanks have non-set pieces designed to complement their tier sets.
Tier 11 isn't bad as tier 8 and tier 10 were, but tier 12 looks like it's going to be another visual schizophrenia-palooza.

Then: Plate tanking gear is stuff that absolutely no one else in the raid wants, and it goes to off spec pretty quickly as a result.
Now: Insert shrug. This is still somewhat true these days -- but again, the disappearance of armor penetration has really made a difference to the ease of gearing a feral. As with our commentary on #2, you still might be rolling against an awful lot of people for jewelry, weapons, and cloaks.
#8: Druids are the easiest tank to shove into another role when needed.
Then: The odds of your tanking an encounter are determined more by the overwhelming popularity of plate classes than your actual skill at playing a tank.
Now: No change. As you can actually argue that the defining feature of the druid class is the ease of jumping into another role when required, this isn't necessarily a bad thing unless you want to remain a dedicated tank and nothing but. In which case -- as horrible as this sounds -- you're probably better off rolling a class that can't be shifted to as many options. The druid is the best possible tank to have around when you want them to do something other than tank, and that's not a great niche if that's really what you want to do with the character.
As I was drafting this article, I couldn't help but notice that this is the third consecutive year I've written a column wondering what happened to all the bear players we saw during The Burning Crusade. However, it might be time to accept that the popularity of the bear tank during BC was purely the result of circumstances -- namely, the druid's status as the only dedicated off tank -- and not the attractiveness of the spec itself. The game as a whole is better for having moved beyond that context, but I hope something can be done to improve the spec's draw with players nonetheless.
Shifting Perspectives helps you gear your bear druid at 85, tempts you with weapons, trinkets and relics for bears, then shows you what to do with it all in Feral Druid Tanking 101. We'll also help you gear your resto druid.
Filed under: Druid, (Druid) Shifting Perspectives, Analysis / Opinion






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
BoB May 31st 2011 7:10PM
Hehe, you used a troll bear picture. Still not used to seeing troll forms. Never being in a raiding guild or anything like that, I can say in my experience bear form is awesome.
mackejn May 31st 2011 7:16PM
I honestly think that the biggest problem is how bland bears are. We are essential still pale mirrors of warriors. There are some minor mechanical differences such as savage defense, but for the most part we are just gimp warriors. Our only real defining characteristic since BC has been our damage, which as Blizzard has stated recently they'll never let us be the high damage tank for any extended time because it throws off enrage timers. We're left with little to no defining characteristics and locked out of our classes our useful abilities. I love Druid and I love bears in particular, but it's disheartening to see the direction Blizzard seems to be taking. Which to me is nowhere. Mechanically we're functional, but just barely. On top of that, we lack a lot of the other utility other tanks have.
sharlatan May 31st 2011 7:45PM
Bland? the only tank that can actually dps worth a damm if needed.
A druid is more than just a bear or a cat, its the games only true hybrid, embrace it.
My druid tanks 5mans (not raided on this alt yet apart from BH) and he has a blast, no aggro issues, no ability gaps (except possibly a ranged silence would be nice) and fun to play, when needed I fit a combat res into the mix around boss abilities (drakara form changes for instance) pop tranq when I can (eagle boss storm attack) and dps in cat form when I can (whenever the boss does a static channel for instance or the eagle spirit on drakara).
used to paly tank, but now find it boring as hell, DK's I wont touch since the duel weild frost tanking was removed, and warriors - meh, yeah fine it looks all macho, but can you do half what I can do? no way.
And besides, I love bear form, If I had to look at the monstrosity of most gear nowadays.....esp T12, my god, if I had to actually see that I'd delete my druid as soon as the patch hits.
Elmouth May 31st 2011 10:33PM
Bears died with the swipe nerf and when they needlessly made bear tanking complex. I used to play all 4 tanks and the only thing keeping me on my bear was the simplicity of it.
Bear tanks are stuck in bear form 24/7, they don't get to see their shiny gear, they have to stare at their big furry butt all the time as well, how did blizzard expect it to be able to compete with the rest of the tanks once they took the only advantage away.
Rubitard May 31st 2011 11:42PM
That word "utility" is exactly why during BC I really enjoyed being an OT in raids w/ my bear, and diving in with critical dps or the occasional heal or innervate. I felt like a jack of all trades that was actually good at quite a few things. I felt needed! Now, I feel like I have to be something more specific in order to ensure my place on the roster. Utility is now a dirty word in WoW -- it means "weak."
Sharlatan Jun 1st 2011 4:02AM
Also want to add, use all you abilities.
Yeah its not good on most bosses, but natures grasp and a little kiting and I can personally CC (root) most of a trash pack out of melee range where it can do no dmg to me at all. Which is marvellous in ZG/ZA I can tell you. Stampeding roar is also useful to get away from mobs to clear stacking debuffs if your dps is a little slow, again great for pugs.
I know my experiences are not in raids, but as most people first experience 5man tanking, I think that is an important place for it to be fun so people stick with it. My pally bores the hell out of me now, say what you like about the 6969 rotation, it was a damm sight better than the boringness of the current system of being a slave to holy power.
The Dewd Jun 1st 2011 2:09PM
I have to agree with Rubitard - I loved having a hybrid spec in BC. I could offtank better than anyone and could still throw heals and innervates around as needed. A fight like Gruul was amazing because even though Paladins were "better" tanks for most things, they couldn't hold a candle to a bear as an offtank. While I can appreciate that letting a single druid build be both a viable bear tank and still do better than average cat dps might be a bit too 'OP', I miss it. I still keep my Tranquility button nearby if needed while dpsing but so much of what made bears fun and useful back in BC and Wrath is gone.
We had amazingly large amounts of armor and dodge and were built to soak damage. We could dps well as bears and even better as cats when we weren't tanking and it made the entire Feral Combat talent tree feel like a single tree. Now it feels like two trees that are joined at the hip like conjoined twins.
I don't miss the responsibility of being a tank but I feel vastly underpowered and mostly just play as a kitty these days even though I'm dual-specced for cat and bear.
noel mcleod Jun 1st 2011 3:16PM
I have a lvl 23 worgen druid that I almost exclusively PvP (rather poorly) with. This article is motivating me to power-level him so I can have a bear tank (I have a DK tank from the old dual-wield days that is now single-wield Blood spec).
The most awesome tanks I saw in Wrath were bears, they were just rare.
Tirrimas May 31st 2011 7:16PM
Bears are a joy to heal. Truly.
DKs? Not so much.
Morcego May 31st 2011 7:38PM
Interestingly enough, I keep hearing it from my healers. The easiest to heal are:
Bear -> Warrior -> Paladin -> DK
Since I'm not really a healer, and just a bear tank, I can't comment on how accurate that is.
Eregos ftw! May 31st 2011 8:09PM
It's fairly accurate. Good bears dodge almost half the time (so take half boss damage), and absorb another good amount of that. RNG can make us take higher burst damage, but overall we take less damage.
bldavis59 May 31st 2011 10:16PM
i have only done a few raids on my bear, but during our halfus kill, i was able to tank him for much longer then any other tank the guild had used before, just because i was dodging so much.
when i play my holy priest, i would much rather see a bear then a pally or dk (oh god i hate seeing DKs ....even the well played ones are a pain to heal)
as far as why i like my bear...well let me say i have 85 bear warrior and pally and a 82 Blood DK....
as far as ease of keeping threat...bear wins hands down
survivability...warrior, but bear isnt much behind
interesting rotation? .....i do miss the 969 of wrath on my pally, but i like the warrior and bears
ease of switching mid fight to another role, and being able to preform said role well?
please do you have to ask? i purposefully have my kitty bars setup in my bear spec so on fights like LK i can be the OT and when i am no longer needed to tank, i switch forms and still do decent dps!
(btw Druid - Feral/Feral Warrior - Prot/Arms Pally - Prot/Ret and DK - Blood/UH)
Tirrimas May 31st 2011 9:37PM
It's fairly easy to predict the damage a Bear, Warrior or Pally will take (I heal with a Tree - prediction's the name of the game). A DK's incoming damage is bursty and can be catastrophic at times. I don't know what it is exactly (my own DK is only 69), but I groan when I get a DK tank.
Cata rox May 31st 2011 10:16PM
Hmmm, I dunno. My main is a blood death knight and I get complimented quite often on how easy I am to heal. It may just be me popping vampiric blood almsot of cooldown, but that just may be me.
Cricket Jun 1st 2011 1:45AM
It's funny, because I always say I prefer a *good* DK tank to just about any other class. Their cooldowns are quite powerful when used properly and their party heal is a really nice buffer in aoe situations. I haven't seen many bears around in heroics lately, but I remember them being a fairly uneventful healing experience.
My least favorite are actually Paladins because they tend to hit their "oh shit" button instant-full-heal when I've just put up Guardian Spirit, essentially wasting one of the two.
Kalvan Jun 1st 2011 12:44PM
I'm a Healadin and i have to argee bears are the easiest to heal even under geared.
We have two bear tanks and i love healing them.
Easiest to hardest.
Bear, Pally, Warrior, and the DK.
Bear seems to avoid getting hit more then the others.
nikdaheratik Jun 1st 2011 4:12PM
I've tanked Bear and DK at max level and have a 65 warrior so the only one I haven't tanked with is a pally. I'd say the biggest problems with bear tanking are lack of cool abilities that can be used in bear form and trouble with casters. The approach is alot different as well since bears take reduced damage just from high dodge and from savage defense, so their abilities all revolve around getting aggro on everything in the area while warriors and pally have a mix of aggro generation and defense type stuff (like the AoE stun or shield block).
The style is basically "anger everything and if you have good gear you'll survive and if not then your healer will hate you". This isn't that different from how DKs approach it except that DKs have a larger number of small cooldowns they can rotate while Bears have a smaller number of cooldowns that they only use to start a big pull or something. And FWIW, I think a well played DK needs less healing than most if they rotate their cooldowns and use a self heal at the right time. But most aren't well played and if they run out of cooldowns then they take much more damage.
Ramses May 31st 2011 7:17PM
I still find it odd that, unlike other tanks, the two key "bear" abilities are seemingly intended to be dps increases (thrash and berserk). Bears still lack in defensive, tanking cooldowns.
Ramses May 31st 2011 7:18PM
and pulverize for that matter
Shoggoth May 31st 2011 7:37PM
Considering we're the best tanks with regards to passive mitigation, what more do you want? We have enough defensive CDs to keep us alive and more than enough armor/passive magic resistance - adding another CD would just put us over the top.