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6-03-2011 @ 10:00PM
@ Alex on the whole blizzard afraid of letting the players lose, they did a pretty good jobs of making the alliance feel like losers in the western plaguands.
6-03-2011 @ 10:26PM
Which made WPL one of my favorite zones I did as I leveled my Cata alt. (it kinda got lame towards the end though)
6-04-2011 @ 12:34AM
>>World of Warcraft needs to learn that sometimes it's okay for the players to actually lose in the story.Hi, the Worgen would like to introduce you to their starting zone.
6-04-2011 @ 1:28AM
Alliance also loses the Sentinel Hill. When we leave Westfall, the Defias Brotherhood has burnt it to the ground. We could assume everything ends up being okay after Vanessa VanCleef dies, but the fact is that there is no background to confirm that.
6-04-2011 @ 4:30AM
Agreed, the Alliance does lose in those places ... which made those villains feel like villains. You HATE those guys in those zones. It only happens in those low level areas, though.They created a new problem there though: It only happens to the Alliance, and they're usually losing to the Horde.
6-04-2011 @ 6:19AM
Agreed.Like the stereotypical Ally, I don't get worked up over the faction thing, but my level of empathy for Sylvanas dropped to zero after playing through the Worgen starting zone.Of course, taking that zone and giving it the Night of the Comet treatment afterwards kind of took away some of the impact, but in the moment I was hatin' me some Forsaken.
6-04-2011 @ 8:35AM
"They created a new problem there though: It only happens to the Alliance, and they're usually losing to the Horde."I hate bringing up the always troublesome example, but Taurajo wasn't exactly a win for the Horde...
6-04-2011 @ 9:51AM
I'd like to point out that Vashj'ir is one big lose-fest for both Alliance and Horde. Whatever gains you make are almost immediately lost. You're heading into glorious battle for the Alliance/Horde! No wait, ship sunk, most of the crew dead. You rescue the crew and rearm them to hold off the Naga! No wait, Naga overwhelm you and kill or capture everyone, yourself included.You manage to free a bunch of your comrades taken as slaves by the Naga, set up a hidden base inside their city, and mount a massive assault on their forces! LOK TAR OGAR! No wait, most of your forces are slaughtered, your base is overrun, and your commander is killed.It's all cool though, because you've got a sweet submarine and now it's time to stick it to the Naga and help out Neptulon and his elementals fight off the Naga invasion! No wait, sub's sunk, crew dead, buddies captured, and Neptulon gets a giant facehugger stuck to his head and runs away in defeat. Naga take the Plane of Water.
6-04-2011 @ 3:13PM
Silverpine is a good example of the power of losing. Crowley and Bloodfang stomp the Horde throughout the whole zone, making you really hate them. When you finally manage to eke out a win at the end, it's very satisfying.
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