Agreed. As someone who plays more for the quests and lore than anything else, I really enjoyed this one.

Also, I *love* the structure for daily quests he's discussing, and I hope it catches on. There's always been something tedious about doing dailies (unless it's whacking pygmies with a hammer, that never gets old). The idea of not only following a story but watching the world change as a result of those dailies has me looking forward to the new patch like nothing else. Here's to hope that it works out well enough for Blizzard to make it happen again and again. ^_^

Amen and can I have another sir? The more I play this game the less likely I am to participate in the rat race that is the gear grinding heroics. Sure it's fun to raid and if you have the patience to do it God Bless. The fun does begin at 85 and it opens up a lot of things for you. I would like an option to make completely heroic/raid gear without having set foot in heroics and raids thru crafting. Make it long ass-grindy but possible. Before you hard cores can complain - make it a step behind- I don't care. Just give us an option to produce raid worthy gear without having to put up with 12 year olds who think they are elite :)

A step behind? I'd be fine with a number of steps behind, mostly, I just want it to look like it wasn't dug up at random Azerthoian scrapmeets and have in-game performance value.

On the larger note, what an excellent watercooler - it gives me a reason to keep playing, having long ago run out of steam for heroics and raids!

But I did lol at "other options, like crafting". I don't think many folks pass their times these days trying to craft the three or four valuable items that "reward" players who've struggled to 525.

@Noyou
So very well said. I am in a family guild where we know many of our guildies in RL (my kids are in the guild) and the best geared players are always the kids! There is a 12 year old in our guild who has waaaay better PvP gear than me from grinding arenas after school, fortunately he doesn't have the obnoxious attitude you so often come across.