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6-17-2011 @ 4:37PM
10 man content healed by a single healer? What fight? We have had 6/12 at least on farm for awhile and I can think of a couple fights we do with 2 healers, but 1 healer? Damn that guy/gal is leetsauce. Even Magmaw would be really tough.No, Argaloth does not count.
6-17-2011 @ 4:50PM
I've never heard of magmaw being solo healed, even on normal. There's just a brutal amount of raid damage. With some specialized comps, I could see maloriak, omnitron, Atramedes, chimaeron, and Double Dragons being solo healed on normal. But it would be patently impossible for fights like conclave, Al'Akir, and nefarian. So I highly doubt mr. Caraway's claim that he's seen nearly all of the tier's fights single healed.
6-17-2011 @ 4:57PM
Maloriak and Atramedes are the easiest to solo heal so far as I know. I wouldn't think that Dragons would be all that difficult either provided you have a raid that's capable of actually avoiding Void Blasts. It also matters on the tanks you bring. Having a paladin and warrior as your tanks would make things easier given that both have raid wide CDs they can use to help mitigate damage; plus paladins have really ridiculous self healing, even for raiding standards. Having a shadow priest along helps as well. Come to think of it, a well geared shadow priest could rather easily handle a significant portion of the raid damage done in normal 10's for several encounters. Pair that with a few other hybrid DPS that have defensive or healing based cooldowns to use and it shouldn't be that bad really. I'd think Omnotron would be rather trivial too.
6-17-2011 @ 5:01PM
No kidding. I'm looking at that and going "What?!" For bosses we downed every week in a 10man only raiding guild, we still kept three healers going. Just two weeks ago on our last Magmaw run, my paladin healer was saying that he could easily go dps instead. I considered it, but I locked our raid to Nefarian the next night so we haven't tried it out. Still trying to get Nef down.
6-17-2011 @ 5:03PM
I said Magmaw because that is one we two heal. I wouldn't try it with one for sure!!And a medal to the healer who can pull Chimaeron off by him/herself, unless the other 9 are DKs and Paladins.
Yeah, I was wondering the same. We've *never* one-healered a single Cata raid boss, even Argaloth. Several we can comfortably do with 2 and generally do, but one? I'm sure there are some we could theoretically do it on (a well-executed Atramedes or Omnitron, maybe) but it just strikes me as an unnecessary risk in case some horrible RNG happens to that one healer.
6-17-2011 @ 5:08PM
There are logistical limitations on a few encounters that would prevent them from being solo healed, yes. I don't think there's any possible way to do Conclave simply due to platforms, but Al'Akir honestly wouldn't be all that bad depending on your group set up.Phase 1 is the only time where there's any spacing issues that would prevent it, and certain DPS comps could actually provide enough self healing. For example, it isn't uncommon to send Enhancement shaman out of their on for that phase, and a shadow priest might be able to handle it was well. It'd be tough, but with enough well geared DPS it might be manageable. Though, now that I think about it, you possibly could technically use nothing but a well geared enhancement shaman for Conclave as a pseudo healer. They might be able to handle the tank damage on Anshal. The only snag would be dealing with Nezir during Sleet Storm. Honestly, a single Tranquility and the shaman should be enough to get you through, and that that point you should have enough DPS that you only hit one phase. Still, it'd be harder and I don't see much pay out for not just going with two healers.
6-17-2011 @ 5:14PM
You really wouldn't try Chim, matticus? The nominal shadow priest and enhancement shaman would make it trivial, I'd think. Raid healing is fairly low, it just needs to be quick. Tank damage is decently high, but not over bearing. The hardest to heal phase would be Feuds.At that point, the shaman can probably focus on healing, and you utilize cooldowns. I'd only think you'd hit two such phases by that point, three at the most. Again, though, single healing relies just as much on raid composition and raid skill as it does on the healer themselves.
6-17-2011 @ 5:19PM
Tyler I have never raided with a Shadow Priest, so I guess I can see it in that case. I didn't realize how good their raid heals were. Sounds like maybe they are getting away with something :)
6-17-2011 @ 5:21PM
Haha, not to mention that Nef has the SAME amount of adds on 10 and 25 man, except 25 man you have an army of people to deal to them. Yeah 10 man is way easier. Not.And no, bosses are not being 1 healed even on farm. Even with 372 gear 11/13H there is just no way.Typical bullshit written from the top of someones head. How about you get a heroic content raider to actually write about raiding? 10 man is so much harder than 25 man its actually laughable. Im going to say you have not even a single 10 man heroic boss achieve at all.
6-17-2011 @ 6:05PM
"You really wouldn't try Chim, matticus? The nominal shadow priest and enhancement shaman would make it trivial, I'd think. Raid healing is fairly low, it just needs to be quick. Tank damage is decently high, but not over bearing. The hardest to heal phase would be Feuds."Yeah... get back to us with a video on that.I'd love to worship at the feet of your solo healer that gets 3 or more people up to from 1 to 10k health every few seconds, all the while healing your off tank up to survive double strikes. I'll even assume your main tank completely heals himself to 10k without fail.Don't forget that you'll need to heal up 200k+ caustic slimes hits spread across the raid every few seconds during the Feud phases. Hope you've got a big mana pool!Like a lot of the points in this article, it doesn't really reflect reality.
6-17-2011 @ 6:24PM
@SumitraCouldnt have said it better myself. People come to Wow.joystiq to learn and read about wow, there is no need / point in spreading false information or even writing about something with pure assumptions. Not only does it anger people, but it encourages people to not come back and read this nonsense.
6-17-2011 @ 6:25PM
@TylerI thought Shadow Priest heals were nerfed when Cataclysm went live so healers had to actually do triage (and so on).I really cannot see any raid being healed by one person. Especially Chimaeron. You have two or so seconds to get two to three people back over 10k. Spread out people at that. Plus tanks being hit with double attack. I would think they would have some incredible haste and a very large mana pool.Though we had a shadow priest on one of our tries. We were still struggling to get people up in time and have enough mana till 20%. (Though I had the most issues. That fight freaks me out with the low bars.)
6-18-2011 @ 6:21AM
@TylerYou...don't know how Chimeron works, do you?Three targets have to be healed up to 10k in about four seconds. Tank damage isn't high? Your MT has to be healed to 10k every five seconds, and your double strike tank has to be healed to full between each DS phase. That's not including Massacres knocking EVERYONE down to 1 health. That's not including Feud phase Caustic Slimes which requires people to be brough up to about a half, and kept there for ten seconds through 200k hits spread out among the raid.Vampiric Embrace ticks for about 900k, and only works on Direct damage now. An Enhancement Shaman Chain Heal is only going to heal for 3k or so on the first jump and has a three second cast time.I don't think you understand how Chimeron works.
6-18-2011 @ 8:07AM
wow Tyler, generally i feel like you pretty reliable but this is pure bias against 10m. show me the video of any 1 heal kill of a 10m normal boss. I'm not saying it does not happen but it is an outlandish claim to drop without any evidence.the cd argument is pure nonsense, how many AMZs do you have in you 25m? we have 0 in my 10m so I really wouldn't know how superior it is in 10m.this article fails and Matt is being WAY to nice not calling you out on your BS 1 heal claim
6-19-2011 @ 9:21AM
Regular Chimaeron can definitely be solo-healed -- our Resto Druid did it on a night when I couldn't raid and they were 9-manning -- and I'm pretty sure I could solo-heal Twin Dragons without much of a problem, probably some others as well, but if you are capable of solo-healing these fights, why are you doing regular modes anyway?And why would you use regular modes to determine encounter balance?
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