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6-24-2011 @ 8:32PM
- "So basically a 10 man guild like mine that are 10/12 regulars and wont be doing heroics anytime soon are pretty much screwed."I quote thee!!"That doesn't mean that you need to have cleared heroic tier 11 content in order to begin raiding, however. While having the gear and experience will certainly help, the bosses in normal are tuned in such a way that your raid should be able to complete them only using normal tier 11 itemization".I honestly don't know where people get this idea. Blizzard has never tuned raids so that you needed to be in BiS HM gear from the previous tier in order to do normals. You didn't need to be wearing Malygos and OS3D gear in order to push into Ulduar. You didn't need to be decked out in Ulduar HM gear to down bosses in ToC. You didn't need to have ilvl 258 25-ToGC gear in order to knock over Marrowgar. I don't have a link at the moment, but I'm fairly sure Blizz even outright said that you won't need HM gear to push Firelands. - "So what exactly do we do? Keep throwing ourselves against the wall that is 10 man Nef and Al'akir?"Remember that all T11 normal modes are being nerfed to oblivion the day 4.2 goes live. It may not be particularly satisfying to down it post-nerf, but it's still a kill. If your raiders are properly executing mechanics and it's just an issue of having enough DPS/HPS, then Nef and Alakir should go down pretty quickly for you. - "Do dungeons for justice points for gear we don't need because we already have it?"Oooooorrrrrrr . . . .you could do dungeons for Valor points and buy T12 gear like we've been doing for the last 6 months. There's also going to be new crafted gear that is T12 level.If you're currently still 10/12, then you should be able to get a boss or two within the first couple weeks. Don't expect to be knocking down Rags' door within the month, but also don't think you'll never make it past the first boss. At 10/12, I can make a safe bet that the large majority of your guild has still managed to get decked out in a good amount of 359 gear, even if there's still a blue or two hanging around due to bad luck with drops or a handful of people without their 4P bonus.
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