Previous tier of raid content is meant to be pugged, says Bashiok

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7-01-2011 @ 2:12AM

Dazzin said...

I started with this game just before BC and ya know - not being able to raid and being unable to grind for the gear so that you are Perfect for the raid has always been a problem. By the time even a good guild crew was willing to take me into some of the content most were burnt out on the grind.

I admit, I love the lore - I just want to see the content - I don't care if someone else got some great and glorious gear or title. If they earned it early on then good for them, I hope they enjoy it all well and in great battles to come.

Me I just want to see what has been created as part of the world I'm playing in. I've got 2 85 that still haven't done ICC because of lack of time and lack of grind and now its even difficult to pug since they took them off the Dungeon Finder after a certain level.

Us 'casual types' pay just as flipping much to enjoy this game as the hardcore raiders do - to try and tell me I can't see, enjoy, experience some part of the game just because I'm not able to grind for gear, when I am Willing To Wait for it is just rude. To tell the game creator that they are slagging the game for the hardcore raider is ridiculous when you've already done the game at the level you wanted to. You got what you wanted - the challenge at the time.

Me, I'd just like to have frickin' LK back on my dungeon finder - some of you 'hardcores' seem to think you need a huge chunk of the game all to yourselves. You did have - for MONTHS. Now, move along to the new stuff so the rest of us can get our money's worth out of the game as well.

7-01-2011 @ 3:07AM

Speetz1213 said...

I love the content/lore too - hence why I do old raids, sometimes repetedly - but if you are getting the older tier nerfed and JP gear and questing gear etc. etc. what is their to complain about?

If you are simply replying to the jerks who think that every raid tier belongs to them and them only, I understand.

For people who want to Raid, we have FL Normal and H mode, and halfway through the tier, maybe a month in more "casual" (I hate that word... same with "hardcores," bleh) guilds will be downing 7/7 or close to it. Then they can farm the gear, while slightly after that the better guilds will get H mode 7/7, and start farming, probably 2 months down. This is the better of both "hardcoreish, 5 nights a week" and "casual, 3 nights but a good amount of skill," which is pretty much the min/max to raiding in a guild.

I don't really see the problem. Gives the people with more time constraints more to do for longer, and the people in guilds who hardly raid can still have plenty of t11 to do, maybe even H mode t11, and then also gearing up from heroics, dailies, and questing.

Plenty to do; if they didn't make you work for at least SOME, as in 1 or 2 bosses (Sinestra,) then there wouldn't be anything to work for. H mode it for a challenge, yes, but as far as the 7th, or last boss of a tier goes, he needs to take a lot to actually down. Maybe not even nearly as much just to see, but a lot to down, otherwise there wouldnt be anything UNIQUE for raiders or players in general to work for, aspire to, and actually accomplish.

Just saying "oh yeah I did that on hmode im 1337 hurp durp it ws exactly the same with bigger numbers and he farts ninjas every 35 seconds" is hardly exciting, interesting, or something to say "Man, I hope I get to down him eventually..."

I understand it sucks not to be able to play and see everything just because you only have X amount of time a day, or can't be on except at dog-ass early in the morn, but try changing realms or something! You can find a time zone that works better for your schedule, etc. And on top of it, as some Blue dude said, playing WoW and getting some where takes less investment, time, skill, and overall any resources compared to not only older MMORPGs, but other MMORPGs/MMOs in general.

7-01-2011 @ 11:15AM

adamjgp said...

In reference to:

"Me, I'd just like to have frickin' LK back on my dungeon finder"

How are you getting raids to show up in your Dungeon Finder? Or are you referring to the ICC 5-mans?

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