I love the content/lore too - hence why I do old raids, sometimes repetedly - but if you are getting the older tier nerfed and JP gear and questing gear etc. etc. what is their to complain about?

If you are simply replying to the jerks who think that every raid tier belongs to them and them only, I understand.

For people who want to Raid, we have FL Normal and H mode, and halfway through the tier, maybe a month in more "casual" (I hate that word... same with "hardcores," bleh) guilds will be downing 7/7 or close to it. Then they can farm the gear, while slightly after that the better guilds will get H mode 7/7, and start farming, probably 2 months down. This is the better of both "hardcoreish, 5 nights a week" and "casual, 3 nights but a good amount of skill," which is pretty much the min/max to raiding in a guild.

I don't really see the problem. Gives the people with more time constraints more to do for longer, and the people in guilds who hardly raid can still have plenty of t11 to do, maybe even H mode t11, and then also gearing up from heroics, dailies, and questing.

Plenty to do; if they didn't make you work for at least SOME, as in 1 or 2 bosses (Sinestra,) then there wouldn't be anything to work for. H mode it for a challenge, yes, but as far as the 7th, or last boss of a tier goes, he needs to take a lot to actually down. Maybe not even nearly as much just to see, but a lot to down, otherwise there wouldnt be anything UNIQUE for raiders or players in general to work for, aspire to, and actually accomplish.

Just saying "oh yeah I did that on hmode im 1337 hurp durp it ws exactly the same with bigger numbers and he farts ninjas every 35 seconds" is hardly exciting, interesting, or something to say "Man, I hope I get to down him eventually..."

I understand it sucks not to be able to play and see everything just because you only have X amount of time a day, or can't be on except at dog-ass early in the morn, but try changing realms or something! You can find a time zone that works better for your schedule, etc. And on top of it, as some Blue dude said, playing WoW and getting some where takes less investment, time, skill, and overall any resources compared to not only older MMORPGs, but other MMORPGs/MMOs in general.